K&N filter vs OEM paper filter & maintenance recommendations
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K&N filter vs OEM paper filter & maintenance recommendations
Is there any peformance advantage to changing to a K&N filter over a clean OEM paper filter?
Also, my car, a 1996' LS, has 45k miles on it. Do the plugs need changed? What about the fuel filter? Coolant? (looks very clean/red)
I've already changed the tranny fluid (OEM Toyota fluid), Oil/Filter (Mobil 1 synthetic), and differential fluid (Valvoline synthetic).
Thanks.
Also, my car, a 1996' LS, has 45k miles on it. Do the plugs need changed? What about the fuel filter? Coolant? (looks very clean/red)
I've already changed the tranny fluid (OEM Toyota fluid), Oil/Filter (Mobil 1 synthetic), and differential fluid (Valvoline synthetic).
Thanks.
#2
Can't believe your low mileage.
Supposedly the K&N allows for more air which gives a bit more power and fuel economy. Many folks here are using it. You have to oil the filter every know and then and it is good for 1 million miles. I am going to switch when mine is due.
I changed my plugs at 100k miles. I don't believe you need to change them due to age unless they are fowling, etc.
I have never changed my fuel filter (1995 LS). The engine coolant I flush every 30k miles and only use Toyota long life.
I have used Mobil 1 SYN since new and the car still drives like new. Best oil out there.
Supposedly the K&N allows for more air which gives a bit more power and fuel economy. Many folks here are using it. You have to oil the filter every know and then and it is good for 1 million miles. I am going to switch when mine is due.
I changed my plugs at 100k miles. I don't believe you need to change them due to age unless they are fowling, etc.
I have never changed my fuel filter (1995 LS). The engine coolant I flush every 30k miles and only use Toyota long life.
I have used Mobil 1 SYN since new and the car still drives like new. Best oil out there.
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Your Lexus dealer will have a booklet detailing the various service interval maintenance. Unless you have all the service records, you've covered most fluids. Just change the PS and you'll be good. Plugs are at the 60K but if you want to, you could change them.
As for the K&N...numerous threads about them here and other car forums. YMMV I removed mine in favor of the OEM paper. Cleaning the K&N is a 2 hour ordeal. OEM is about 10 minutes to R&R.
As for the K&N...numerous threads about them here and other car forums. YMMV I removed mine in favor of the OEM paper. Cleaning the K&N is a 2 hour ordeal. OEM is about 10 minutes to R&R.
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Your Lexus dealer will have a booklet detailing the various service interval maintenance. Unless you have all the service records, you've covered most fluids. Just change the PS and you'll be good. Plugs are at the 60K but if you want to, you could change them.
As for the K&N...numerous threads about them here and other car forums. YMMV I removed mine in favor of the OEM paper. Cleaning the K&N is a 2 hour ordeal. OEM is about 10 minutes to R&R.
As for the K&N...numerous threads about them here and other car forums. YMMV I removed mine in favor of the OEM paper. Cleaning the K&N is a 2 hour ordeal. OEM is about 10 minutes to R&R.
All the parts and fluid changes as well as system checks are noted. Very helpful. It's a separate booklet from the Owners Manual. It's called Scheduled Maintenance and General Information.
Also, I doubt that a filter change will help much. The intake air system on the LS4's is pretty well designed to breath cool air from the intake grille. A fresh paper filter (stock) is pretty large with lots of surface area, so the only time that a non-stock filter "may" show an advantage is at high RPM when the engine is drawing maximum air volume. Unless you wind your baby up tight regularly, your wasting your money.
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the Lexkost mod is more on de-restricting the intake and is a lot more "smog-friendly" since u can instantly reverse back.
the JBrady intake is a bit different as it adds in a cold charge intake into the mix.
i dislike oil filters and amd going to use a big round piece of plexi or lexan to make a bracket for the Apex'i filter (since its both a better filter and flows more than most others, incl. K&N and HKS). i could make another at the same time if ur interested
the JBrady intake is a bit different as it adds in a cold charge intake into the mix.
i dislike oil filters and amd going to use a big round piece of plexi or lexan to make a bracket for the Apex'i filter (since its both a better filter and flows more than most others, incl. K&N and HKS). i could make another at the same time if ur interested
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the Lexkost mod is more on de-restricting the intake and is a lot more "smog-friendly" since u can instantly reverse back.
the JBrady intake is a bit different as it adds in a cold charge intake into the mix.
i dislike oil filters and amd going to use a big round piece of plexi or lexan to make a bracket for the Apex'i filter (since its both a better filter and flows more than most others, incl. K&N and HKS). i could make another at the same time if ur interested
the JBrady intake is a bit different as it adds in a cold charge intake into the mix.
i dislike oil filters and amd going to use a big round piece of plexi or lexan to make a bracket for the Apex'i filter (since its both a better filter and flows more than most others, incl. K&N and HKS). i could make another at the same time if ur interested
#10
Stick to paper, change it every 10-15k. Filtration is F A R superior over the K&N. There isn't anything to be gained with it. You can hack your intake box if you want a bit more power.
I am still trying to see if there is any reflash for the PCM
Fuel filters I do ever 10-15k too, they're cheap.
Plugs every 25k with copper core. You can go further with a Platinum or Iridium.
Consider caps/rotors.
Most under hood rubber, it's over ten years old... regardless of mileage. Same for the timing belt.
Coolant yearly, it's cheap and easy.
I am still trying to see if there is any reflash for the PCM
Fuel filters I do ever 10-15k too, they're cheap.
Plugs every 25k with copper core. You can go further with a Platinum or Iridium.
Consider caps/rotors.
Most under hood rubber, it's over ten years old... regardless of mileage. Same for the timing belt.
Coolant yearly, it's cheap and easy.
#11
Just curious about your comment that the paper filter is far superior. Are you saying that the K&N dosen't do a good job filtering the air? I've seen many hi performance cars and almost all of them use the K&N or some type of oiled filter.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#12
Doesn't filter well is an understatement. Go search around and you will see the pics of one under a microscope... the holes are HUGE.
I've owned and do own performance rides, you don't see enough gains to warrant the silica ingestion into the motor. Run it without a filter, with the K&N, then with a paper... you won't see difference worth noting.
Paper or the newer Amsoil nano-fiber are the only to consider.
#13
I decided to go with OEM rather than K&N - don't like having to oil, etc. the paper element. I did Lexkost's intake mod and who knows if I gained power but it definitely gets more air - sound better also.
#14
Is oiling the filter really that big of a problem for people? I've had K&N filters on many vehicles (cars and motorcycles) and taking an hour to clean it once a year really dosen't seem like that big of an ordeal. I never knew about the filtering issues, but the cleaning part has never been a problem for me.
#15
Stick with OEM which is paper. I there were any advantages to a K&N, it would come from the factory that way.
On the other hand, K&N makes a GREAT oil filter.... but that's for another thread!
On the other hand, K&N makes a GREAT oil filter.... but that's for another thread!