Square Tire Setup - Anyone Try This?
#33
Where are you getting all this understeer? On the street?
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
#34
Where are you getting all this understeer? On the street?
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
#35
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If you're accelerating at the start of a turn, most of the weight will be to the rear and the front tires will not have enough load to allow the car to turn properly which will promote understeer.
If your VDIM is fully engaged, the system could also be cutting back on your steering input if it senses that you might be going into an oversteer situation.
Lastly, most cars are tuned to understeer from the factory for liability reasons. In addition to a square tire set-up, you might want to look into modifying your front and rear sway bar configuration if you want to alter the handling behavior of your car.
Last edited by redspencer; 05-30-14 at 04:48 PM.
#37
#38
I only noticed a difference in handling when I switched tires from the ER33 to the V12. Much more grippier and inspires more confidence on harder turn ins.
The major benefit, and the reason I went to a square setup, was for tire rotations. If I get a flat, I don't have to worry about what tire to put where and such. I do not plan on dropping so aesthetics was the last thing on my mind.
But to answer your question... going square has no change for everyday driving. The tires make the biggest difference.
The major benefit, and the reason I went to a square setup, was for tire rotations. If I get a flat, I don't have to worry about what tire to put where and such. I do not plan on dropping so aesthetics was the last thing on my mind.
But to answer your question... going square has no change for everyday driving. The tires make the biggest difference.
#39
Where are you getting all this understeer? On the street?
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
I've only once experienced understeer in this car on the street and it was because I was being an idiot and totally overloaded the front tires. When you drive with an attention to weight balance/transfer, it's pretty easy to drive this car hard and keep it neutral or have it oversteer.
I'd suggest participating in autocrosses or track days to learn the car better (And how to drive better) before completely changing the dynamics of the car.
For lap days I had a lot of undersired understeer. It is worse than my S4 ever was and that was a nose heavy car.
I'd love to find some sways that dont cost an arm and a leg like the TRDs. For now I am doing the best springs I can find that increase the rear spring rate which is the RSR down. We'll see.
Mike
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