Why aftermarket nav is so much better than OEM
07-12-09, 04:13 PM
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Why aftermarket nav is so much better than OEM
Moved to a new thread as a mod didn't like it being discussed in the one it was in-
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Yes...which is why it's pathetic the OEM system is so lacking in modern features... it's a lexus, it shouldn't do less than a $200 garmin from 5 years ago...but it does.
And the second picture I provided looks completely OEM, yet still uses an aftermarket nav that does a slew more things, and better.
Nobody is going to break in for something that looks factory after all.
So you think it was a good idea to spend $2200 more than I did to have a nav that only sucks in -10- ways compared to Garmin instead of 11?
From what I remember, we are in a luxury car? Do you even know what a luxury car is? Maybe you might need some help. According to dictionary.com luxury is: free or habitual indulgence in or enjoyment of comforts and pleasures in addition to those necessary for a reasonable standard of well-being:
Right... which is why the glaring lack of modern features in the OEM nav is so horrible...especially with the insane price they charge for it. The nav in the Infinity G, 4 years ago, did more and cost half as much... let alone how much better an aftermarket unit is.
No you can't.
The backup camera shows what is directly behind you... it doesn't show if a car is coming parallel to your car. So unless you're physically incapable of looking behind you you're not getting any benefit.... and if you are, the parking sensors work great and cost $400 instead of $2500. Or, again, if your neck really is broken, you can add a rear view cam to many aftermarket navs. Heck you can probably even use the OEM rear view camera if you're that obsessed with sticking to Lexus parts, and still save a bundle displaying it on the aftermarket nav.
Yup... I have to press a second button once in a while when I get a call.
Unlike you who have to press a second button (well, screen touch) all the time to change any functions on the radio, climate control, etc...all of which I do in 1 button on my physical non-nav controls.
I could.... or I can do it via FM if I want... or I can just use the built in speaker... all depends what I want to do. Since the Garmin can play mp3s and audiobooks the FM route isn't bad for that since it'll play nicely through my ML system too.
You must be. Track, title, artist, album, mp3 tags, etc info all display on the non-nav radio just fine from CDs. And of course info displays on the Garmin if you're playing mp3s or audiobooks stored on it.
And yet it's so dangerous some states have passed laws making it illegal.
Watching a movie, rather than the road, while driving a car is idiotic. Period.
I thought this was a Luxury car? Now you have to figure out distances in your head and hope there's not two streets really close to each other since the OEM nav is too dumb to tell you street names like my Garmin?
It's odd how you make "it's not that hard to do it myself" excuses for all the shortcomings of the OEM unit, but if I mention I can just turn my neck to see behind me, that's not luxury.
Yeah, that article was from when the economy was doing well, and even then it said Nav was bad for resale, and nobody cared to pay any extra for a used car with the feature. Now the economy is considerably worse, you think people are MORE likely to want to overpay for a used car with an outdated nav system that does less than a $200 unit? Uh, no.
Prior posts in the thread here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...igation-2.html
Nobody is going to break in for something that looks factory after all.
From what I remember, we are in a luxury car? Do you even know what a luxury car is? Maybe you might need some help. According to dictionary.com luxury is: free or habitual indulgence in or enjoyment of comforts and pleasures in addition to those necessary for a reasonable standard of well-being:
The backup camera shows what is directly behind you... it doesn't show if a car is coming parallel to your car. So unless you're physically incapable of looking behind you you're not getting any benefit.... and if you are, the parking sensors work great and cost $400 instead of $2500. Or, again, if your neck really is broken, you can add a rear view cam to many aftermarket navs. Heck you can probably even use the OEM rear view camera if you're that obsessed with sticking to Lexus parts, and still save a bundle displaying it on the aftermarket nav.
Unlike you who have to press a second button (well, screen touch) all the time to change any functions on the radio, climate control, etc...all of which I do in 1 button on my physical non-nav controls.
I could.... or I can do it via FM if I want... or I can just use the built in speaker... all depends what I want to do. Since the Garmin can play mp3s and audiobooks the FM route isn't bad for that since it'll play nicely through my ML system too.
You must be. Track, title, artist, album, mp3 tags, etc info all display on the non-nav radio just fine from CDs. And of course info displays on the Garmin if you're playing mp3s or audiobooks stored on it.
And yet it's so dangerous some states have passed laws making it illegal.
Watching a movie, rather than the road, while driving a car is idiotic. Period.
I thought this was a Luxury car? Now you have to figure out distances in your head and hope there's not two streets really close to each other since the OEM nav is too dumb to tell you street names like my Garmin?
It's odd how you make "it's not that hard to do it myself" excuses for all the shortcomings of the OEM unit, but if I mention I can just turn my neck to see behind me, that's not luxury.
Yeah, that article was from when the economy was doing well, and even then it said Nav was bad for resale, and nobody cared to pay any extra for a used car with the feature. Now the economy is considerably worse, you think people are MORE likely to want to overpay for a used car with an outdated nav system that does less than a $200 unit? Uh, no.
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07-12-09, 04:15 PM
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in the end, the reason why i went oem is because aftermarket will never look as clean as oem. aftermarket just looks out of place in the 2is.
aftermarket is obviously better beyond the clean look.
aftermarket is obviously better beyond the clean look.
07-12-09, 04:52 PM
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Whats amazing is the level kurtz will go or stoop to in order to make his opinion known. At the end of the day no one cares kurtz. Either you like the nav or don't. Now how can this thread not get closed?
Next thread you should start is the magnusson moss act.
LOL!
Next thread you should start is the magnusson moss act.
LOL!
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07-12-09, 05:09 PM
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Moved to a new thread as a mod didn't like it being discussed in the one it was in-
Prior posts in the thread here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...igation-2.html
Prior posts in the thread here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...igation-2.html
Yes...which is why it's pathetic the OEM system is so lacking in modern features... it's a lexus, it shouldn't do less than a $200 garmin from 5 years ago...but it does.
And the second picture I provided looks completely OEM, yet still uses an aftermarket nav that does a slew more things, and better.
Nobody is going to break in for something that looks factory after all.
Nobody is going to break in for something that looks factory after all.
So you think it was a good idea to spend $2200 more than I did to have a nav that only sucks in -10- ways compared to Garmin instead of 11?
Right... which is why the glaring lack of modern features in the OEM nav is so horrible...especially with the insane price they charge for it. The nav in the Infinity G, 4 years ago, did more and cost half as much... let alone how much better an aftermarket unit is.
The backup camera shows what is directly behind you... it doesn't show if a car is coming parallel to your car. So unless you're physically incapable of looking behind you you're not getting any benefit.... and if you are, the parking sensors work great and cost $400 instead of $2500. Or, again, if your neck really is broken, you can add a rear view cam to many aftermarket navs. Heck you can probably even use the OEM rear view camera if you're that obsessed with sticking to Lexus parts, and still save a bundle displaying it on the aftermarket nav.
And yet it's so dangerous some states have passed laws making it illegal.
Watching a movie, rather than the road, while driving a car is idiotic. Period.
Watching a movie, rather than the road, while driving a car is idiotic. Period.
You forgot to quote his whole quote from the previous thread..?
I thought this was a Luxury car? Now you have to figure out distances in your head and hope there's not two streets really close to each other since the OEM nav is too dumb to tell you street names like my Garmin?
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07-12-09, 05:21 PM
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All i have to say is OEM has it's pro and cons and so does any aftermarket.
I don't use the Navi much except looking for a freeway entrance, the nearest gas station, and mostly the backup camera. I can't park for beans driving for 4 plus years and i love my backup camera.
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07-12-09, 05:21 PM
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OEM navigation looks a lot cleaner.
I've gotten great use out of my rear view camera.
.....but different strokes for different folks.
Getting a Lexus w/ OEM navigation shouldn't be that more expensive vs. one w/o; you just got to know how to negotiate with the dealer.
I've gotten great use out of my rear view camera......but different strokes for different folks. Getting a Lexus w/ OEM navigation shouldn't be that more expensive vs. one w/o; you just got to know how to negotiate with the dealer.
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I got hella deal on my IS with Nav..you just gotta find the right sales man
OEM Nav looks a lot cleaner for sure..but it's true that some of its features could be improved little more
07-12-09, 06:58 PM
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Yup... I have to press a second button once in a while when I get a call.
Unlike you who have to press a second button (well, screen touch) all the time to change any functions on the radio, climate control, etc...all of which I do in 1 button on my physical non-nav controls.
wrong. there are physical buttons as well as push screen buttons for the climate/radio.
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I forgot about that. I got my car at below invoice. Practically I am paying close to $1000-$1500 for navi.
07-12-09, 07:13 PM
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Because some people don't need NAV or they might want more features that aftermarket NAVs have. The same could be said about the IS250 if we were to use that logic, but most IS250 people probably don't want or need the extra power. Maybe they want better MPG. The list could go on and on...
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Because some people don't need NAV or they might want more features that aftermarket NAVs have. The same could be said about the IS250 if we were to use that logic, but most IS250 people probably don't want or need the extra power. Maybe they want better MPG. The list could go on and on...