Just installed Hankooks Ventus v12
#31
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still interested to try these out
needa get two front tires first, but seems like the v12 is a hit or miss.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...evo-v12-2.html
needa get two front tires first, but seems like the v12 is a hit or miss.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...evo-v12-2.html
#32
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WTF...Sell them now! Performance car needs performance tires...Why put yourself through the misery for the next 6+ months?
Michelin makes fantastic tires obviously, but from what I've HEARD, they wear out very quickly (as fast as 15-20k on a IS F), also they use a harder compound that tends to start cracking, which then you should replace even if you have thread left. (ISFpat can you comment on this since I know you know your tires)
I get about 40k out of my Bridgestone RE11 in the front, and about 30-35k out of the rears. Sure, it's roughly $1200-$1300 for a set, but like many have said, you get what you pay for.
I get about 40k out of my Bridgestone RE11 in the front, and about 30-35k out of the rears. Sure, it's roughly $1200-$1300 for a set, but like many have said, you get what you pay for.
#33
I never realized there was a segment beyond "max performance summer" called "extreme performance summer"
These RE11s seem to be part of that highest tier "extreme performance summer," while pilot super sports/PS2s are part of the 2nd tier according to tirerack.
The Hankooks are also part of the 2nd tier, although I don't know how they measure these things.
These RE11s seem to be part of that highest tier "extreme performance summer," while pilot super sports/PS2s are part of the 2nd tier according to tirerack.
The Hankooks are also part of the 2nd tier, although I don't know how they measure these things.
#35
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I never realized there was a segment beyond "max performance summer" called "extreme performance summer"
These RE11s seem to be part of that highest tier "extreme performance summer," while pilot super sports/PS2s are part of the 2nd tier according to tirerack.
The Hankooks are also part of the 2nd tier, although I don't know how they measure these things.
These RE11s seem to be part of that highest tier "extreme performance summer," while pilot super sports/PS2s are part of the 2nd tier according to tirerack.
The Hankooks are also part of the 2nd tier, although I don't know how they measure these things.
Picking between Bridgestone is like thinking if you want a red apple or a green apple.
#36
Don't be fooled...Pilot Sports is probably THE TIRE for street performance. Some prefer Bridgestone RE11, some prefer Michelin Pilot Sports. Sure, you can get other tires like Toyo Proxes R888 which are DOT approved, but lets keep those "types" of tires out of the mix.
Picking between Bridgestone is like thinking if you want a red apple or a green apple.
Picking between Bridgestone is like thinking if you want a red apple or a green apple.
#37
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With that said, I wanted a more high performance tire, and the RE11 was the top of the line tire Bridgestone had to offer. It had a treadwear rating of 180, which technically meant that it could last slightly longer than RE050As that my car originally came with (as long as my alignment was consistent).
I got a lifetime alignment package from a tire shop for $160, and I bring my car in every 6000 miles to have the guys do it and as long as nothing crazy happens, I wear my tires down till they hit the wear indicators.
Since I drive a lot, or at least used to, tire life was important, but also performance. I understood the wear characteristics of a Bridgestone tire because I used the RE050As completely, so I decided to buy again, but just a higher end tire.
Michelin tires...I've NEVER owned except for OEM crap that came on my previous Honda and Acura. Never ran the OEM tires long enough to learn the treadwear characteristics because I changed the OEM wheels out for aftermarket wheels and at that time used brands that I'll never use again...IE..Toyo T1R, Nitto NT555, Falken FK451/FK452.
When I say treadwear characteristics, it means that I have an idea how long it's going to last. You can't compare UTQG ratings across brands, however, you can compare them WITHIN the same brand as their testing methods are probably uniform.
IE, a Michelin tire that has a UTQG rating of 400 does not mean it's going to last twice as long as a Bridgestone tire with a UTQG rating of 200. However, a Bridgestone tire with a UTQG rating of 400 will probably get double the miles of a Bridgestone tire with a UTQG rating of 200. Of course all this depends on driving conditions.
That was the long answer...the short answer is that Bridgestone tires were used in Formula 1, the ultimate form of motorsport in the world, and therefore, if they make tires for Formula 1, surely they know what they're doing when it comes to Extreme Performance Summer for my IS F (it never rains in SoCal, we can run Extreme Performance Summer tires all year long)
BTW, for what it's worth, I'm on my 3rd set of rear RE11s and I'm on my 2nd set of front RE11s. If I were to buy a new tire that wasn't Bridgestone, I'd buy Michelin. I will NEVER buy any other tire other than tires from these two manufactures. Like most people, I like to save money when I can, however, in the case where my life depends on it...give me the most expensive thing you got. Tires are the LAST thing you want to be cheap with to save money.
My next set of tires will be Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.
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My tires are cooked at about 14K miles - so that should indicate my driving style.
Initially the tires had too much rollover/play, but I found that can EASILY be resolved with proper tire pressure. The grip on these tires is great in FL (heat); they do NOT do well in cooler temperatures.
Either way, I am completely happy with them and I am otherwise in love with Michelin PS2's.. but if you get the hankooks, inflate them properly, you'll be happy (255/30/20, 295/25/20).
Initially the tires had too much rollover/play, but I found that can EASILY be resolved with proper tire pressure. The grip on these tires is great in FL (heat); they do NOT do well in cooler temperatures.
Either way, I am completely happy with them and I am otherwise in love with Michelin PS2's.. but if you get the hankooks, inflate them properly, you'll be happy (255/30/20, 295/25/20).
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Yes the V12s need a higher tire pressure than the stock tires. If you fill them to the sock pressure you will wear them out quickly. I run mine at 40psi in the front and 39psi in the rear.
Probably need new ones in the next 2 months and with the current prices they should run me less than 800 for the tires I need for my 20s.
Probably need new ones in the next 2 months and with the current prices they should run me less than 800 for the tires I need for my 20s.
#41
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They have gotten a little better with 41psi in them, a Hankrook rep got back to me asking my tire sizes and psi, he think I'm running the wrong psi, now I'm waiting to hear back what psi they recommend