Have IS-F production numbers by year ever been released?
04-14-16, 08:51 PM
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04-14-16, 09:10 PM
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There's 3 immaculate dealer cars at close to KBB retail right now.
The GSF is a superior car in nearly every way albeit at a high price point. Although honestly not that much higher if the ISF was $63,000 in 2008, that is $70,000 in today's dollars.
I anticipate the GSF to depreciate on a similar schedule as the LS460 and GS350. That is about 30% in first 2 years putting a used one in the $60k range. Maybe even lower if they're already selling them for $10k off MSRP. Maybe in the low $50k range?
I love the ISF, but KBB/Edmunds and others are what they're selling for.....not what someone has their car listed for for 10 months.
05-03-16, 11:18 AM
#201
Disagree......there are plenty languishing on dealer lots. The only people pressing the price issue are private parties who can't afford their loan payoffs. As AZ doesn't charge tax on private sellers/buyers, those are the ones I'm hunting for haha.
There's 3 immaculate dealer cars at close to KBB retail right now.
The GSF is a superior car in nearly every way albeit at a high price point. Although honestly not that much higher if the ISF was $63,000 in 2008, that is $70,000 in today's dollars.
I anticipate the GSF to depreciate on a similar schedule as the LS460 and GS350. That is about 30% in first 2 years putting a used one in the $60k range. Maybe even lower if they're already selling them for $10k off MSRP. Maybe in the low $50k range?
I love the ISF, but KBB/Edmunds and others are what they're selling for.....not what someone has their car listed for for 10 months.
There's 3 immaculate dealer cars at close to KBB retail right now.
The GSF is a superior car in nearly every way albeit at a high price point. Although honestly not that much higher if the ISF was $63,000 in 2008, that is $70,000 in today's dollars.
I anticipate the GSF to depreciate on a similar schedule as the LS460 and GS350. That is about 30% in first 2 years putting a used one in the $60k range. Maybe even lower if they're already selling them for $10k off MSRP. Maybe in the low $50k range?
I love the ISF, but KBB/Edmunds and others are what they're selling for.....not what someone has their car listed for for 10 months.
The ISF sold well when it was introduced because it was actually quite competitive with it's target, the C63 and M3. It went on to beating them both in handling and track test numbers with the 2011+ updates. Need I remind you it was the only car out of those 3 that made it in Car and Driver's fastest sedan in Lightning Lap History after the 2011+ refresh.
Don't want to talk bad about the new F brother but Lexus just really dropped the ball on the GSF, the dimensions are just awkward, too long and it's just too heavy! The ISF is also the only current F car that can be fully tuned and the aftermarket support is starting to embrace it. We're seeing 11 second ISF's with just exhaust mods and a tune, I don't see the GSF ever doing well in the aftermarket.
Back on topic, I'm number 9834, 2012 Obsidian here.
1 out of 568, unfortunately we don't have the break down for colors, but if we divide the colors available at the time equally I would be 1 out of 94! Yay!
05-03-16, 11:23 AM
#202
Disagree, the GSF is a heavier and slower car, also the dimensions are too big to be a replacement for the ISF. It was supposed to take on the CTS-V and M5 in its size category and it failed miserably, just look how bad the sales are currently. 10k discount right off the bat and it's still not selling.
The ISF sold well when it was introduced because it was actually quite competitive with it's target, the C63 and M3. It went on to beating them both in handling and track test numbers with the 2011+ updates. Need I remind you it was the only car out of those 3 that made it in Car and Driver's fastest sedan in Lightning Lap History after the 2011+ refresh.
Don't want to talk bad about the new F brother but Lexus just really dropped the ball on the GSF, the dimensions are just awkward, too long and it's just too heavy! The ISF is also the only current F car that can be fully tuned and the aftermarket support is starting to embrace it. We're seeing 11 second ISF's with just exhaust mods and a tune, I don't see the GSF ever doing well in the aftermarket.
Back on topic, I'm number 9834, 2012 Obsidian here.
1 out of 568, unfortunately we don't have the break down for colors, but if we divide the colors available at the time equally I would be 1 out of 94! Yay!
The ISF sold well when it was introduced because it was actually quite competitive with it's target, the C63 and M3. It went on to beating them both in handling and track test numbers with the 2011+ updates. Need I remind you it was the only car out of those 3 that made it in Car and Driver's fastest sedan in Lightning Lap History after the 2011+ refresh.
Don't want to talk bad about the new F brother but Lexus just really dropped the ball on the GSF, the dimensions are just awkward, too long and it's just too heavy! The ISF is also the only current F car that can be fully tuned and the aftermarket support is starting to embrace it. We're seeing 11 second ISF's with just exhaust mods and a tune, I don't see the GSF ever doing well in the aftermarket.
Back on topic, I'm number 9834, 2012 Obsidian here.
1 out of 568, unfortunately we don't have the break down for colors, but if we divide the colors available at the time equally I would be 1 out of 94! Yay!
agreed...the GSF failed...plain and simple. although I bank on lexus for reliability...it needs to be up to date with FI.
nuff' said
05-18-16, 11:30 AM
#204
Welcome aboard it's great car jack of all trades type. You can track it, auto course it, 1/2 mile it, drive it to work and still have reliable D/D.
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2012 - #9894 - Obsidian - 56,200 miles - Northeast Georgia 
05-23-16, 08:01 PM
#207
Back to the topic, I wonder how many NGP were made in 2013.....any ideas?
