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Old 08-19-10, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default Actual ISF Alignment Spec, not just "ranges" from alignment rack? Anybody?

So I now have a lot of people involved at Lexus looking into getting my ISF correctly aligned. However whenever I ask for the alignment spec they just show me the sheet from the alignment rack and it's "ranges" (which by the way my car cannot even reach). So I'm trying to get them to work on the subframe to straighten things out.

Anyway. What are the exact specs for the ISF? For example "camber = -1.5" "caster = 8.0" "Toe = +.1" etc.

Anyone know? I want Lexus to make my car align like it was designed not get the dismissal that "It's with in spec".

In my opinion the range is too crazy wide for example the camber ranges from negative to POSITIVE! how can that even be considered i the same range?


Done ranting, some help please?

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do a search on excessive pulling and read through each post. you'll find some exact alignment specs. i remember seeing it recently.
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Old 08-19-10, 01:53 PM   #3
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do a search on excessive pulling and read through each post. you'll find some exact alignment specs. i remember seeing it recently.
Trust me, I've been following the pulling issue for over a year now and have read all the threads on all the Lexus forums. I will check again, but I do not believe they have been posted. My car has been in 4 times for the same issue, they have installed the "brackets" in the TSB on both sides and the car is still out of whack.

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Old 08-19-10, 02:25 PM   #4
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I have just re-read:
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-f...n-their-f.html
http://www.lexusfforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1531
http://www.lexusfforum.com/forums/sh...6&postcount=45

None of these threads give an actual factory spec for the ISF alignment.

I have only found a user suggested setting of:
LF RF
Camber -1.0 Camber -1.0
Caster 7.9 Caster 8.0
Toe-out 0.10 Toe-out 0.10

LR RR
Camber -0.9 Camber -0.9
Toe-in 0.16 Toe-in 0.16
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Old 08-19-10, 03:29 PM   #5
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Default Anyone have access to Toyota TIS system/database?

Looking for some one to pull a document for me.
Toyota TIS website: Document ID #: RM000000WWZ016X
Please send me PM

Thanks!
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Old 08-19-10, 03:59 PM   #6
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here are the oem specs..
front:

camber -1.6 - -0.1
caster 8.0 - 9.5
toe -0.07 - 0.09

rear:

camber -1.5 - 0.0
toe 0.04 - 0.20

my specs:

front:

camber R-1.5 L-1.5
caster L 8.0 R8.1
toe 0.0

rear:
camber L1.2 R1.0
toe L0.15 R0.15

cas is lowered on eibach springs
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Old 08-19-10, 04:06 PM   #7
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here you go

http://rickyc.mine.nu/website/ISF/ISF-Alignment.pdf
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Thanks, but I was looking for the original PDF, RickyCRX scanned copy does not print well.
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here are the oem specs..
front:

camber -1.6 - -0.1
caster 8.0 - 9.5
toe -0.07 - 0.09

rear:

camber -1.5 - 0.0
toe 0.04 - 0.20

my specs:

front:

camber R-1.5 L-1.5
caster L 8.0 R8.1
toe 0.0

rear:
camber L1.2 R1.0
toe L0.15 R0.15

cas is lowered on eibach springs
Thanks D2M but what you have quoted is the RANGE ( I have this) not the actual spec (a single value).
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It's not a pdf. You'd need a full version of Acrobat to save it as a pdf.

You can print this by saving the image file to Paint.

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Threads merged. Same OP, same topic.
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It's now a PDF.

Lou
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File Type: pdf IS-F_Suspension_Specs.pdf (867.9 KB, 439 views)
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Fan-Freak'n-tastic. Thanks everyone!

Just to clearify. The front toe spec is for OUT and the rear for IN? I'm not sure how to read these as there there doesn't seem to me a +/- infront of the values.
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yes, toe in..
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Fan-Freak'n-tastic. Thanks everyone!

Just to clearify. The front toe spec is for OUT and the rear for IN? I'm not sure how to read these as there there doesn't seem to me a +/- infront of the values.
Front is toe out, and rear is toe in. Both help the car turn.
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