Maintenancing at a Toyota Dealership
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I guess I am a lucky one. My toyota and lexus dealerships are next door to each other and they are only about 15 mins away from me. I would personally bring my lexus to lexus and my wifes toyota to toyota even though they are side by side. I also agree that most of these things can be done in your own driveway. Let us know how your experience is at toyota.
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If you can provide any specific, technical, reason to "turn" properly used brake rotors I'd love to hear it.
Because folks like Stoptech disagree with you, so does GM, and I suspect they know more about brakes than you do.
For example:
http://www.procutinternational.com/supplier_gm.aspx
Brake rotors should only be turned when one of the following rotor surface conditions exist:
1. Severe scoring - depth in excess of 1.5 mm (0.060 in).
2. Pulsation concerns from:
* Lateral runout in excess of 0.080mm (0.003 in).
* Thickness variation in excess of 0.025 mm (0.001 in).
* Excessive corrosion on rotor braking surfaces.
Rotors are not to be resurfaced in an attempt to correct the following conditions:
Noise/squeal
Cosmetic corrosion
Routine pad replacement
Discoloration/hard spots
1. Severe scoring - depth in excess of 1.5 mm (0.060 in).
2. Pulsation concerns from:
* Lateral runout in excess of 0.080mm (0.003 in).
* Thickness variation in excess of 0.025 mm (0.001 in).
* Excessive corrosion on rotor braking surfaces.
Rotors are not to be resurfaced in an attempt to correct the following conditions:
Noise/squeal
Cosmetic corrosion
Routine pad replacement
Discoloration/hard spots
In other words you only resurface a rotor when something is genuinely wrong with it... not "any time you service the brakes"
The only thing resurfacing does to a properly working rotor is waste metal and force you to replace it sooner.... or as GM puts it in their own words:
Rotor refacing during normal pad replacement is not necessary.
If your rotors are in good shape you need only replace the pads, bed them properly, and drive them properly, and you'll have no issues and you won't waste good rotor metal on the floor of the shop.
Here's Stoptech explaining the myth of warped rotors and what is really happening with vibrating brakes (and how to avoid it)
http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...rakedisk.shtml
The only time grinding the rotors is called for there is if you have extensive uneven pad deposits- which only happens if you never bedding the brakes properly or are using them improperly (like leaving the brakes fully applied after very hard use) as explained in the article.
Last edited by Kurtz; 06-04-11 at 10:06 AM.
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yea my lexus dealer is about a 40 min drive from my house, but ****it, they wash my car after every service AND fill my tank up! forkin awesome.....I work at a Toyota dealer and they dont so much as give u an air freshner after servicing
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Unfortunately, Lexus up here in Canada do not fill up our tanks after each service, warranty or tsib.
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I only get my oil changed at my local toyota dealership. I bring my own oil (mobile one synthetic) and they do the oil change for $19.95 which includes the factory oil filter and a new o ring. I can't complain.
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My local toyota dealer charges $70 for an oil change using full synthetic.
I don't know what the lexus dealer charges for it, I do my own for $24 in Mobil1 and $4 for a filter plus 20 minutes of my time. We do the ES350 at the same time so just buy 3 gallon containers and 2 filters and both cars get done for less than the cost of one done at the dealer. Save the receipts and log the change into a spreadsheet for resale.
I don't know what the lexus dealer charges for it, I do my own for $24 in Mobil1 and $4 for a filter plus 20 minutes of my time. We do the ES350 at the same time so just buy 3 gallon containers and 2 filters and both cars get done for less than the cost of one done at the dealer. Save the receipts and log the change into a spreadsheet for resale.
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