Handling & road feel -- 2IS vs 3-series, G35/37, 1IS
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i'm not sure about everyone else but I'm not talking so much about steering feel as much as increased handling.
the steering feel on my 07 awd is nice.
it could be better tho.
and it definitely be better if it really wants to beat the 3 series
the steering feel on my 07 awd is nice.
it could be better tho.
and it definitely be better if it really wants to beat the 3 series
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I've test driven various IS models, 250, 250AWD, 350 for the 07/08 model years and the steering felt better on "my" 07 350, where as the others felt over-boosted. I was going to ask the dealer if something is wrong with my car but wouldn't want them to -fix- it. I did notice the other cars were wearing michelin pilots. Anyone else experienced something similar? There is some feedback from the front wheels on the IS but it's muted pretty well, honda accords feel way better. I've driven the G/335/A4 back to back with the IS but can't remember specifics of the steering. The lexus handles better than the now previous gen...A4.
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I love my 07 IS 250, factory 18's.
Sticks to the ground like magic. Up and down mountain passes with no drama. 45 mph no brake turns around corners in the city for giggles. Absolutely no complaints from me.
Sticks to the ground like magic. Up and down mountain passes with no drama. 45 mph no brake turns around corners in the city for giggles. Absolutely no complaints from me.
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I've test driven various IS models, 250, 250AWD, 350 for the 07/08 model years and the steering felt better on "my" 07 350, where as the others felt over-boosted. I was going to ask the dealer if something is wrong with my car but wouldn't want them to -fix- it. I did notice the other cars were wearing michelin pilots. Anyone else experienced something similar? There is some feedback from the front wheels on the IS but it's muted pretty well, honda accords feel way better. I've driven the G/335/A4 back to back with the IS but can't remember specifics of the steering. The lexus handles better than the now previous gen...A4.
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I used to have a 3 series with sports suspension and I miss it a lot, my sister had a modded g35 coupe and it was nice but I still like the 3 series handling a lot better. I would rate the 2IS the worst of the bunch, but on the point on luxury its #1.
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OK, so now let me ask this... You think it would be better to do aftermarket front/rear sway bars and stiffer springs rather than an X/Sport package?
I don't like being locked into the 3-colors on a 2IS250 x-pkg anyway.
I don't like being locked into the 3-colors on a 2IS250 x-pkg anyway.
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The sport package shocks are linear, most of the aftermarket ones are progressive... Linear > progressive for performance if you wanna drive at the bleeding edge.
Perfect setup IMHO is stock sport suspension with the F-sport sways added
Adjustable coilovers (the stock setup is already coilovers after all, just not adjustable) are great, but most people don't ever adjust them, and half the ones that do have no idea what they're doing when they do adjust them, they just assume lower automatically means better and that's not true.
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Sport package lets you pick any color you want, plus get the nice lux features. If your major concern is performance you should be buying a 350 anyway :P
The sport package shocks are linear, most of the aftermarket ones are progressive... Linear > progressive for performance if you wanna drive at the bleeding edge.
Perfect setup IMHO is stock sport suspension with the F-sport sways added
Adjustable coilovers (the stock setup is already coilovers after all, just not adjustable) are great, but most people don't ever adjust them, and half the ones that do have no idea what they're doing when they do adjust them, they just assume lower automatically means better and that's not true.
The sport package shocks are linear, most of the aftermarket ones are progressive... Linear > progressive for performance if you wanna drive at the bleeding edge.
Perfect setup IMHO is stock sport suspension with the F-sport sways added
Adjustable coilovers (the stock setup is already coilovers after all, just not adjustable) are great, but most people don't ever adjust them, and half the ones that do have no idea what they're doing when they do adjust them, they just assume lower automatically means better and that's not true.
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I really can't rate it on a scale, but having driven an '06 G35 sedan on Z springs, I'd say it feels better than my IS350. The steering is more responsive and the car rolls less. The reduced body rolll is likely because of the springs, but the steering feel is just better. I would also say that the 1IS is more responsive. I have an '06 and the steering just feels a little light and the body rolls a bit. We'll see if that changes once I lower it. In terms of handling, it keeps up with the G35, but just doesn't feel as precise doing it. I do have 20's on the car, but that didn't affect the body roll or steering, it felt this way with stock 18"s.
This sounds funny, but what I really miss is my old '97 Maxima. Don't laugh. I had 19x9 wheels with 255 tires on it. On top of that, I had coilovers, sway bars, strut bars, upgraded bushings, etc. With an aftermarket Momo steering wheel, the responsiveness of that setup was crazy. The big tires actually made the steering heavier and the smaller diameter steering wheel was great. Of course it was only great on smooth roads as anything rough would just be punishing and the suspension was so stiff that the car would get sketchy. Plus I had a big turbo so it was unpredictable in corners; nothing like hitting full boost halfway through a turn. But if I could just get near the responsiveness in that car with the 2IS, I'd be happy.
This sounds funny, but what I really miss is my old '97 Maxima. Don't laugh. I had 19x9 wheels with 255 tires on it. On top of that, I had coilovers, sway bars, strut bars, upgraded bushings, etc. With an aftermarket Momo steering wheel, the responsiveness of that setup was crazy. The big tires actually made the steering heavier and the smaller diameter steering wheel was great. Of course it was only great on smooth roads as anything rough would just be punishing and the suspension was so stiff that the car would get sketchy. Plus I had a big turbo so it was unpredictable in corners; nothing like hitting full boost halfway through a turn. But if I could just get near the responsiveness in that car with the 2IS, I'd be happy.
Looking for some opinions here...
This scale I've come up with may be a bad one, but humor me please.
[ -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 ]
If a standard tuned 2IS is a 0
And a standard Camry is a -3
Where do you think the following cars fall on the scale as far as:
* Tightness of handling
* Steering feel/feedback
1.) 2IS with Sport/X-pkg
2.) 3-series (325/335)
3.) G35/G37
4.) 1IS
Explanations welcome. Thanks!
This scale I've come up with may be a bad one, but humor me please.
[ -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 ]
If a standard tuned 2IS is a 0
And a standard Camry is a -3
Where do you think the following cars fall on the scale as far as:
* Tightness of handling
* Steering feel/feedback
1.) 2IS with Sport/X-pkg
2.) 3-series (325/335)
3.) G35/G37
4.) 1IS
Explanations welcome. Thanks!
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