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If you think going over to Nissan/Infiniti is going to help your situation; your more then welcome it but it will be your worst mistake. Take it from previous owners like myself and others here - Nissan/Infiniti vehicles are horrendous rattle-traps. You can search the Infiniti forums all you want and listen to the owners that say their Infiniti does not rattle; and it’s all BS. You'll be begging to have your IS350 back.
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
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Don't forget to include Acura on this rattling and denial topic. Acura dealers are the worst for saying that they don't hear a loud rattle/creak/squeak and not doing anything about it.... I don't think I'd buy another Acura ever. I'm much much happier with my Lexus and the service from the shop thus far.
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Since I worked on squeaks/rattles at a Toyota manufacturing plant, I'll tell you all that the more you guys take your problems to the dealer, the more help WE get in solving those problems.
The biggest issue is that its difficult to detect squeaks/rattles at 35-40dB when the ambient noise level is 60-65dB inside the plant, and the only people who drive outside the plant are auditors picking 3-4 vehicles a day. So we depend on warranty data from the dealers to give us an idea of where the problems are surfacing.
The biggest issue is that its difficult to detect squeaks/rattles at 35-40dB when the ambient noise level is 60-65dB inside the plant, and the only people who drive outside the plant are auditors picking 3-4 vehicles a day. So we depend on warranty data from the dealers to give us an idea of where the problems are surfacing.
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If you think going over to Nissan/Infiniti is going to help your situation; your more then welcome it but it will be your worst mistake. Take it from previous owners like myself and others here - Nissan/Infiniti vehicles are horrendous rattle-traps. You can search the Infiniti forums all you want and listen to the owners that say their Infiniti does not rattle; and it’s all BS. You'll be begging to have your IS350 back.
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
Also - THANK YOU Irishman06 for telling everyone WHY it is important Lexus get this information. It really will result in better cars in the future.
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My car has less rattles than any other car i have owned. Im sitting right at about 21k miles. I do have creaks from the dash every once in a while especially when the inside of the car is hot and going over speed bumps or rough roads but i dont consider that a rattle. And it doesnt really bother me that much. The rattles i cant stand is the plastic piece that jiggles against another plastic piece. That drives me CRAZY, i have none of that in the lexus yet. Knock on premium package wood.
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I have driven Nissan Maximas, Toyota Corollas, a Toyota van, and now an IS, and I've never had a rattle problem.
IMO, it is the driver, not the car.
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...or simply due to the driving habits of the customer. I mean hitting potholes, bumps, or other stuff at 75 mph sure can't help the rattling problem either.
I have driven Nissan Maximas, Toyota Corollas, a Toyota van, and now an IS, and I've never had a rattle problem.
IMO, it is the driver, not the car.
I have driven Nissan Maximas, Toyota Corollas, a Toyota van, and now an IS, and I've never had a rattle problem.
IMO, it is the driver, not the car.
My '88 GTS Corolla(s), '93 GTS Celica, and a passel of MR2s didn't make unexpected noises. My IS350 didn't make unexpected noises for the first 5k miles. Then it started buzzing. No, not my driving, but the door seal buzzing under very specific conditions. I didn't buy this car to hear noises, and I wouldn't have tolerated this particular noise in any of my cars because NONE of them made a continuous noise on pebble grain pavement in my ear. The IS350 did. The dealer fixed the problem with silicone spray on the door seal. Quiet was restored. Not that the car makes NO noises, because every car makes noises, especially going over bumps in the road. The dash will tick, and the panels will creak, but if you hit holes you should expect noises from any car. I just don't expect a continuous buzz in my ear from my Lexus. Period.
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If you think going over to Nissan/Infiniti is going to help your situation; your more then welcome it but it will be your worst mistake. Take it from previous owners like myself and others here - Nissan/Infiniti vehicles are horrendous rattle-traps. You can search the Infiniti forums all you want and listen to the owners that say their Infiniti does not rattle; and it’s all BS. You'll be begging to have your IS350 back.
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
That being said, I'm all for holding Lexus and other marquee makes who charge big $$$ for their vehicles to "higher-standards"; including rattles. But for those who have owned a-lot of vehicles like myself, the reality is that the amount a vehicle costs -vs quality issues like squeaks/rattles are unfortunately mutually exclusive.
Don't flame me here, for I'm your side - I despise ANY rattles and the more I pay the less rattles/issues I expect – I think we all agree on that. The difference w/Lexus however is that Lexus will admit and deal w/your issues, whereas Nissan/Infiniti will deny it and work against you.
So I ask, which will be more frustrating in the long run...?
I went to and still go to many many G35 meets and know over 100 owners personally...and we all said the same thing....it definately rattles beyond belief.
While I had my G I held onto my trusty ol 1997 ES300 and the G is long gone and the Lexus remains why- its a better built vehicle all around...now with all I am reading about IS rattles I am questioning if Lexus has made its name and is lowering its quality....?
Either way I am back on the CL forums and trying to gather info about the IS350 cause come 2008 I am looking to pick up another Lexus...I went over to Infiniti...and TRUST me the dealer service STINKS...the build stinks
I sold my G with a measly 14,600 on it ..it was practically new...why ?? I got tired of going to the ******IN dealership and switching services dept do to SHIITTY service!....
So I thank all of you for your comments and insight...please keep it coming
Thanks
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The IS' rattling problems are NOTHING compared to what Nissan/Infiniti cars suffer.
However, the funny thing is, I bought my IS over the G35 or any other competing cars with confidence and hope that Lexus cars wouldn't have menial but frustrating problems like this.
But with the stupid creaking in my car, my desire to trade in my car grows day by day ...
Hopefully a dealership will be able to fix it when I take the car in for the 5,000 mile service .
However, the funny thing is, I bought my IS over the G35 or any other competing cars with confidence and hope that Lexus cars wouldn't have menial but frustrating problems like this.
But with the stupid creaking in my car, my desire to trade in my car grows day by day ...
Hopefully a dealership will be able to fix it when I take the car in for the 5,000 mile service .
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That's the same lame excuse my dealer gave me, but I don't find the stock suspension on my car to be particularly stiff. Actually, I drove an RX350, and in a straight line I didn't find it to be much smoother than my IS350. Then again, the RX with very low miles rattled as well...