MTLT

No you still do not need to clamp down the spring down. If you buy a OME 2895 spring you run the OME 60004 shock to match the spring. If you buy our long travel rear kit with the appropriate shock to match everything will stay in place. Here are examples of some Toyota's at full flex and the springs are still firmly in place without clamping them down.

Full droop on our 80 series using OME J springs and L series shocks


Our long travel rear kit

RCsGX

These were matching OME springs and shocks and somehow the spring popped out.




Every lifted GXs over on ih8mud & expeditionportal is running some type of bottom spring mount, whether it be a custom made perch or a "U" shaped bracket and a lot of them are running matching OME springs and shocks. So if they're not needed why are they using them? Maybe I'm missing something?

PERCH


"U" BRACKET

MTLT

The first picture either the shock wasn't matched to the spring or the shock failed allowing it to extend past its extended length.

As for why all the other GX's have the clamp it is due to the person who decided it was necessary to put a clamp on the bottom portion of the spring and every one has followed suit. We sell hundreds of suspension kits each year for the 80, 100, 200 Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser and 4Runner that all have the same suspension platform for the rear and none of the kits come with clamps nor did Toyota put one on from the factory. As you know the GX470 is a Prado 120 which is the same platform that the FJ Cruiser and 4Runner use so there is no difference between the models.

On the last picture the spring even though has a clamp isn't fully supported. In the second picture you can see there is a ramp built for the spring to rest on which is correct. The springs do not sit flat on the axle so you need a ramp to fully support the spring at the base.

RCsGX

I never said you needed a clamp. I've always show pictures of DanKunz's yellow perch and said we needed to use something like that if doing the spring coversion.

The only way to do that was to have one custom made...that is until your company starting making them and selling them about 2 1/2 weeks ago. When you posted the link on ih8mud I purchased your DIY kit the very next day. (PPal: Tiasun*******@aol.com).


DanKunz's yellow custom made perch, the same perched I originally pictured back on page 4 - post #53, which you said needed clarification, is the same perch you are saying is correct. So I'm confused...what exactly need clarifying from my post?

T4RBoarder

Hey guys, I hope I didn't miss this earlier in the thread but I had a peculiar problem with my suspension on my GX. It seems like it is leaning towards the drivers side. The passenger rear has the highest space between fender and wheel and the drivers side front has the smallest space, it seems to ride ok (rear might be a little stiff/bouncy) and the rear still seems to lower and raise. From previous findings usually the entire rear is raised or lowered if a sensor goes bad not just one side. The axle geometry in comparison to the body looks off too when looking at the raised/lowered sides. Does this seem like a bad sensor or am I looking at something broken/collapsed up front that is causing the lean?

Feel free to ask questions if this is confusing.

RCsGX

Just guessing but it sounds like a faulty ride height sensor.

mbenz80

I guess you got lucky and you may be the only one without suspension trouble. I just hope you got the timing belt done already.
We have -14F now and my compressor is rurning on but truck is bottomed out on exle and it's not lifting. Horse ride is pleasant compare to this junk. Sensors are new, left on since May and right one since last month. I hope it's just frozen moisture in lines or dryer.
Anyone knows how much pressure the compressor should be pumping out to make sure it's still good and rule it out (I have 277K miles and it could be anything).
I will bring it inside our factory tomorrow for 10 hours defrost and see if it helps.
Thanks in advance for your help.

RCsGX

It probably is a frozen line but if you want you can try and see if you have a code for a bad compressor...all you need is a short section of wire to use as a jumper on your OBDII port.

You can check this thread out to get an idea of how the blinking will work, only you will pay attention to the "OFF" ride height light not the SRS light.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...-light-on.html

See the attached PDF on how to check it. A bad compressor will show a 42 (C1742) and or a 51 (C1751) blinking code.

mbenz80

Thanks RCsGX,
I will try to check the codes at my lunch break, I have the truck inside warming up now.
Are these pages out of Volume 1 and 2 OEM repair manual? I left Volume 1 at home since Volume 2 section 25 has the Suspension Control System description.
I opened up both original sensor to check them, Left on is coroded inside to the point that wiper of the potentiometer and gold plated contact springs desintegrated to dust. Right sensor is fine, clean as new and test using 3 AA battery cells shows perfect function. Both sensors are exactly same, just mounting bracket for them is different.
I will let you know my findings.

mbenz80

RCsGX,
Here are my codes: 41, 42, 51, 61 and 79.
I didn't try to reset the ECU with brake pedal depressions.
After removing the jump wire I started up, compressor turned on as it should but suspension did not move up a bit. I'm unable to print your pdf pages from other post on codes fault, can you please let me know what to check first in suspension controls? I have a new suspension compressor out of W164 Mercedes ML, I wish I could use but I'm not sure about the pressure comparability.
Thanks again.

RCsGX

41 - 61 deals w/ the ride height system.
79 is your crank position sensor but it's also tied into the ride height system.

It can be a number of problems or a single problem...the one thing all of those codes have in common is a faulty suspension ECU.

Here's a couple of links to Sewell that shows all of the ride height suspension parts.
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/oem-cat...X470-2005.html
http://lexus.sewellparts.com/oem-cat...X470-2005.html


Now we know why some people rip the entire ride height system out and go with coil springs.
Good luck w/ everything. I hope it turns out to be something cheap and simple. Let us know what you find out.

mbenz80

Do you think it's safe to reset the codes with CG-TC jumper wire and brake pedal?
And what is the "normal code" for height control? Will I wipe it out with this reset procedure?
Thank you so much!

RCsGX

Yeah it should be.


With a normal code the "OFF" light will quickly and uniformally blink, there will be no pauses or slower flashes like you saw with the number codes you found. Here's a comparison of a normal code vs. a 13 and 33 code:

470reasons

This thread has had over 39,000 views!

Lexus should have put a compartment in the rear door right next to the tool box, for a coil spring conversion kit.

RCsGX

You aren't lying!