Comparing Lexus to BMW and AUDI
#61
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I don't see an issue with having an option.
I've got a grey headliner, don't think its nasty looking.
I've got a grey headliner, don't think its nasty looking.
#63
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I have no problem with options.
It's when some basic features become additional cost options that I begin to have problems.
The Germans are also masters of the additional-cost options. That's the downside of the "wonderful" flexibility that the Germans provide.
It's when some basic features become additional cost options that I begin to have problems.
The Germans are also masters of the additional-cost options. That's the downside of the "wonderful" flexibility that the Germans provide.
#64
They are masters a charging for stuff that should be standard equipment, like HID headlights, push button start and other things. I looked at a E350 4Matic that was $59k and it still had a key, and halogen headlights. To get the upgrades you had to get the P2 package, which was another $4-5k. Pretty ridicilous that a car in that price range doesn't have the items as standard when cars that cost $25k less do.
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^^ Honestly, HIDs are options on much cheaper cars, as well. Fact is, the Germans cost more since people are willing to pay more for them. I'd rather have options than none at all. Sure, It's great I get push button start as standard (as do many KIAs, now), it's not so great I cannot even option the car as well as a Hyundai Genesis - which, it should be noted, is much more powerful, faster, and cheaper than the GS. At any rate, that is what's holding me back from buying a GS. I don't care about being slower, I don't like not having even the option to get what I want. Many of these restricted options are available, or standard, on other Lexus cars overseas.
#66
^^ Honestly, HIDs are options on much cheaper cars, as well. Fact is, the Germans cost more since people are willing to pay more for them. I'd rather have options than none at all. Sure, It's great I get push button start as standard (as do many KIAs, now), it's not so great I cannot even option the car as well as a Hyundai Genesis - which, it should be noted, is much more powerful, faster, and cheaper than the GS. At any rate, that is what's holding me back from buying a GS. I don't care about being slower, I don't like not having even the option to get what I want. Many of these restricted options are available, or standard, on other Lexus cars overseas.
German brands should be embarrassed asking $60k for a car without those things as standard equiptment. Oh, and ironically, the same E had MB Tex in it. $60k for a car with fake leather seats and lighting technology from 30 years ago, I'll pass.
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^^ Honestly, HIDs are options on much cheaper cars, as well. Fact is, the Germans cost more since people are willing to pay more for them. I'd rather have options than none at all. Sure, It's great I get push button start as standard (as do many KIAs, now), it's not so great I cannot even option the car as well as a Hyundai Genesis - which, it should be noted, is much more powerful, faster, and cheaper than the GS. At any rate, that is what's holding me back from buying a GS. I don't care about being slower, I don't like not having even the option to get what I want. Many of these restricted options are available, or standard, on other Lexus cars overseas.
#69
^^ Honestly, HIDs are options on much cheaper cars, as well. Fact is, the Germans cost more since people are willing to pay more for them. I'd rather have options than none at all. Sure, It's great I get push button start as standard (as do many KIAs, now), it's not so great I cannot even option the car as well as a Hyundai Genesis - which, it should be noted, is much more powerful, faster, and cheaper than the GS. At any rate, that is what's holding me back from buying a GS. I don't care about being slower, I don't like not having even the option to get what I want. Many of these restricted options are available, or standard, on other Lexus cars overseas.
P.S. The hyundai genesis 3.8 with 333hp is NOT faster then a GS genius.
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#70
but if you get an s-line or 's' vehicle audi, gray shouldn't be an option, it stands out like a sore thumb in that interior.
#71
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Why should it not be an option just because you don't like it?
#72
Most modern vehicles use lighter-colored headliner and pillar trim. It creates a less distracting view and a feeling of interior spaciousness. Black trim creates a "cage" feeling. That's why it's typically limited to "performance" vehicles.
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