Originally Posted by Outrage

You mean like this?

Originally Posted by natnut

Great point. If you want an M5 or E63 competitor, wait for the upcoming GS-F and be prepared to pay M5 class money.

If Steel21 complains about a GS350 F-sport not having additional hp, then why isn't he complaining about the 535i M-sport, the E350 AMG pack and the A6 3.0T S-line which also don't have increased power over the base vehicle?

Lexus isn't pulling a switch and bait. Hello, they called it a GS THREE FIFTY. Buying a GS350 then complaining it doesn't have 500hp seems a bit stupid. They didn't call it the GS600 or GS550 - that should be a big clue to you.

And I would take some minor ergonomic quibbles over the MAJOR irritant of the turbo lag/throttle delay of the 3L turbo engine in the current 5 series.

To the poster above me, no need to speculate. There is this little thing called statistics and statistical studies show that the 5 series breaks down more often and costs more to maintain in the LONG RUN than a GS.

Also why do we care if majority of Lexus owners don't care about sporty driving or the track performance of a GS? Here's a DIRTY little secret : neither do the vast majority of 5 series,E-class and A6 owners. They're either buying the car for the badge, some mysterious connection between prestige and being "German", the luxury features of the car or some combination of the above.

HOWEVER this is a car enthusiast forum where driving performance and handling ability IS important to the forum members and guess what? The handling ability and slalom speed of the GS relative to its competitors like 5 series,A6 IS important to US and the fact that it's superior to the Germans IS important to us.

AND you can bet that it's also important to the enthusiasts on the German forums that the GS is kicking 5 series, A6 and E-class butt on the slalom and track. LOL

Originally Posted by Hockyguy4u

ms04--
Your comparison to your 2007 335i is interesting. Have you driven a 2013 3-series? It's almost embarrassing. The interior is like a cheap rental car. It's that bad. They almost force you to ante up to the 5 series to feel like you haven't wasted your money.

In regards to the criticism in the post prior to that, I must say that the build quality of my GS F-Sport is impeccable. It's built like a tank (just like my 911). It will be especially durable due to its time-tested engine and transmission--which, of course, some will look at negatively since it isn't cutting-edge new technology...