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Old 03-25-16, 12:25 PM
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Default More unsold GSF than RCF on cars.com

Total unsold units including 2015s:

GS F -477
RC F-318


Just test drove a GSF and my local dealer acts like the GSF is hot commodity. 2500 discount max.

If they don't move these units, its going to be carnage year end

At least they are learning the demand for RCF is not there and keeping units low.
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what are your impressions on the driving dynamics of the Lexus GS-F?
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Originally Posted by RoiteTrom
what are your impressions on the driving dynamics of the Lexus GS-F?
It has the same engine as my rcf and weighs about 100 pounds more, both feel very planted and power is there when WOT. But Lexus equipped the car with too many gears. There is a huge lag downshifting from 8th gear to 2nd when you need the power right away. I guess that's how Lexus claim 16mpg city and avoid gas guzzler tax. For the RCF, I get 13mpg city for real world reference. For the price and competing category of GSF, the engine and interior left much to be desired. Can't compete with the power plants of E class AMG, CTS v, M5... Lexus needs a bigger engine for this car. The interior compared to my RCF isn't better, just different instrument layout. They copied the EXACT same seats from the RCF and same wheel/tire size. Even all the different driving mode gauge displays are copied directly from the RCF.
A couple things it has that I wish the RCF had: HUD, TVD, seats and steering wheel move back all the way when engine turned off, actually working heated and cooled seats instead my anemic ones. Things I disliked: no active spoiler like my RCF, just a carbon fiber piece protruding from the trunk. If the GSF wanted a toned down look, that's definitely the wrong thing to do. The overall body wasn't too appeased either. It looks too toned down and to an untrained eye, it's just a typical GS with some carbon fiber add on any kid can do and headlight design change from the standard. Speaking of headlights, I LOVE my RCF design, but the tri-beam on the GSF just doesn't look right.
Sticker price for the GSF was around 88000, my RCF was 73000. Does the little differences command $15000? Heck no. Btw I paid $59k before fees for my RCF, so GSF needs a huge discount to move units.
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My RCF headlights
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Originally Posted by ssmoked
It has the same engine as my rcf and weighs about 100 pounds more, both feel very planted and power is there when WOT. But Lexus equipped the car with too many gears. There is a huge lag downshifting from 8th gear to 2nd when you need the power right away. I guess that's how Lexus claim 16mpg city and avoid gas guzzler tax. For the RCF, I get 13mpg city for real world reference. For the price and competing category of GSF, the engine and interior left much to be desired. Can't compete with the power plants of E class AMG, CTS v, M5... Lexus needs a bigger engine for this car.
Completely agree - GS-F is lacking in power compared to its competitor. Although I think Lexus needs a twin-turbo V8 like its competitor instead of a bigger engine. When you get full 500 ft-lb torque from 1500-1800 rpm you do not need to downshift as much.
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Originally Posted by neilsarkar
Completely agree - GS-F is lacking in power compared to its competitor. Although I think Lexus needs a twin-turbo V8 like its competitor instead of a bigger engine. When you get full 500 ft-lb torque from 1500-1800 rpm you do not need to downshift as much.
They missed the mark on performance and then decided to make up for it by pricing it too high. Not a solid sales plan.

Love both cars, but not at their current prices.

RCF $60-65k
GSF $65-70K

Hell, even at those prices you can get a 464hp ATS-V for $60K
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Originally Posted by JaponesV8

Hell, even at those prices you can get a 464hp ATS-V for $60K
Now..now...I dislike my cars in the shop for constant warranty repairs
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Personally I think the GSF headlights look better than rcf

GSF lights being in a row makes the front look wider instead of the stacked of the rcf
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Just checked this morning. 497 GS Fs in the US according to cars.com. I'm guessing it'll be over 500 in a week or two.

My local dealer has 8 now. To my knowledge they have not sold a single one.

Meanwhile the BMW and Cadillac dealers can't keep the M cars or V cars on the lot more than a week.
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Originally Posted by PMan
Just checked this morning. 497 GS Fs in the US according to cars.com. I'm guessing it'll be over 500 in a week or two.

My local dealer has 8 now. To my knowledge they have not sold a single one.

Meanwhile the BMW and Cadillac dealers can't keep the M cars or V cars on the lot more than a week.
100s of GSF unsold here in Los Angeles
Our dealer sold one

However lots of M in stock here

My neighbor looked for yas marina sedan and found 6 new unsold
He bought last week

No idea about ctsv
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After getting a ride in/driving a built 2015 Audi RS7 yesterday for a good hour. I feel like the GS-F really needs a TT setup to even be remotely competitive to cars like that. Under 500hp is just not going to cut it for a big car like that, costing that much, and trying to be competitive with the Germans.

That engine is amazing, I love it in our IS-F, but GS-F needs more juice.
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RS7 is a 110k car

GSF (someone paid $73k for one today) isn't even competition with that and isn't even on the same level as an Audi RS car...
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Now at 506 according to cars.com....that was faster than I expected
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522 now...
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We should start a pool with bets on how high it will go lol


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