Help needed to select bn 2006/7 GS
08-06-15, 05:15 PM
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Help needed to select 2006 gs430 vs 2007 gs450h
I am in the market for a used GS. I have owned a 2014 GS350 fsport, and I loved it, due to financial circumstances I sold the vehicle and now looking to get an older model.
How reliable are gs430?? I am sure the gs350 450h are very reliable, but how is gs430?
How is 6cyl vs 8 ? How does it drive compare to 6cul
What to look for? What problems both models have? Any advice is approciated.
How reliable are gs430?? I am sure the gs350 450h are very reliable, but how is gs430?
How is 6cyl vs 8 ? How does it drive compare to 6cul
What to look for? What problems both models have? Any advice is approciated.
Last edited by FastTags; 08-06-15 at 06:09 PM.
08-06-15, 09:26 PM
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if anything the gs430 (06-07) probably has the best drivetrain setup. i would take that over the 350 or 460 or 450h if you plan to keep the car for very long
and i would like to have 07 coz' 06 was just half-*** from lexus imho. but 07 gs430 is hard to find
and i would like to have 07 coz' 06 was just half-*** from lexus imho. but 07 gs430 is hard to find
08-07-15, 05:18 AM
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08-07-15, 05:21 AM
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thanks for the reply. I don't really care for the speed as much as for reliability and comfort, I did not know that GS 's have chains, is this for the 3gen only,? Is the 4th gen has timing belts too??
I just want to make sure that one of them does not have an big issue, like IS's do.
How reliable is Hybrid compare to regular GS350?
I could not locate in my town a 2007 GS430, only 2006. So, all 2006 GS's are halfassed? not a good buy? I did hwever found a sweet looking GS450H http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/5156081978.html
I guess my question is: is it worth go to get 2007/2008 GS450h or GS430 vs. GS350, when speed is not my main concern, reliability and comfort is.
I just want to make sure that one of them does not have an big issue, like IS's do.
How reliable is Hybrid compare to regular GS350?
I could not locate in my town a 2007 GS430, only 2006. So, all 2006 GS's are halfassed? not a good buy? I did hwever found a sweet looking GS450H http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/5156081978.html
I guess my question is: is it worth go to get 2007/2008 GS450h or GS430 vs. GS350, when speed is not my main concern, reliability and comfort is.
The 2008 is probably the most desirable, since it has improvements over the 2007 GS350. See this thread for details:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...fferences.html
The GS350 is faster than the GS430 and gets better gas mileage. It's not always better to have a V8. The 430 also has a timing belt, while the 350 has a timing chain.
*GS430(note that Lexus claims a 5.7 second 0-60, yet tests showed it ran 6-6.3 second 0-60): 14.5@95.5 and 16 city, 23 highway.
*GS350(tests showed that this actually ran closer to a 5.7 second 0-60 and the AWD version did it in 5.3 seconds): 14.0@99.5(13.8@101.x for the AWD version) and 19 city, 27 highway(18 city, 25 highway for the AWD).
I'd order it this way 2008 GS350>2007 GS350>2006 GS430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...fferences.html
The GS350 is faster than the GS430 and gets better gas mileage. It's not always better to have a V8. The 430 also has a timing belt, while the 350 has a timing chain.
*GS430(note that Lexus claims a 5.7 second 0-60, yet tests showed it ran 6-6.3 second 0-60): 14.5@95.5 and 16 city, 23 highway.
*GS350(tests showed that this actually ran closer to a 5.7 second 0-60 and the AWD version did it in 5.3 seconds): 14.0@99.5(13.8@101.x for the AWD version) and 19 city, 27 highway(18 city, 25 highway for the AWD).
I'd order it this way 2008 GS350>2007 GS350>2006 GS430
Last edited by FastTags; 08-07-15 at 05:41 AM.
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08-07-15, 05:58 AM
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Well, take my word. I've owned my GS400 for almost 17 years now. No Problems. The GS430 motor is pretty much bored out GS400 motor. Let me tell you the GS430 is smoothest luxurious motor Lexus has ever put out besides the 460, but IMO I think the 430 motor is the best to date, its the same motor in the LS430, which is said to be the best Lexus ever made. I have a 2005 GS430, the last year of the 2GS, this car is so luxurious yet a beast of power especially on the hwy. My GS430 is so night and day compare to the older GS400 which shares the same bodystyle.
The Bad, the 430 motor comes in the '01-'05 2GS and 06-07 3GS or 01'-06 LS430. You can get an '06-'07 GS430 which is the first two years of 3rd Gen. To my knowledge there isn't any reliability issues with this car as far as motor-wise but the 3GS has a few kinks you can read about on this forum.. IF it were me, I would look for '06-'07 GS430 or '09'-'11 GS460 (very rare if you can find one) I omitted the '08 GS460 because of the valve spring recall for that year.
If you're okay with the older bodystyle like on the 2GS, there are a few of them around with low miles.. Newer is not always better. I work for car company and drive a lot of newer cars on regular basis, there isn't much out there like the GS unless you're willing to spend north of $60K.. If you're looking for Supreme Luxury car that is the most reliable, why not a LS430?
The Bad, the 430 motor comes in the '01-'05 2GS and 06-07 3GS or 01'-06 LS430. You can get an '06-'07 GS430 which is the first two years of 3rd Gen. To my knowledge there isn't any reliability issues with this car as far as motor-wise but the 3GS has a few kinks you can read about on this forum.. IF it were me, I would look for '06-'07 GS430 or '09'-'11 GS460 (very rare if you can find one) I omitted the '08 GS460 because of the valve spring recall for that year.
If you're okay with the older bodystyle like on the 2GS, there are a few of them around with low miles.. Newer is not always better. I work for car company and drive a lot of newer cars on regular basis, there isn't much out there like the GS unless you're willing to spend north of $60K.. If you're looking for Supreme Luxury car that is the most reliable, why not a LS430?
08-07-15, 06:16 AM
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The 2008 is probably the most desirable, since it has improvements over the 2007 GS350. See this thread for details:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...fferences.html
The GS350 is faster than the GS430 and gets better gas mileage. It's not always better to have a V8. The 430 also has a timing belt, while the 350 has a timing chain.
*GS430(note that Lexus claims a 5.7 second 0-60, yet tests showed it ran 6-6.3 second 0-60): 14.5@95.5 and 16 city, 23 highway.
*GS350(tests showed that this actually ran closer to a 5.7 second 0-60 and the AWD version did it in 5.3 seconds): 14.0@99.5(13.8@101.x for the AWD version) and 19 city, 27 highway(18 city, 25 highway for the AWD).
I'd order it this way 2008 GS350>2007 GS350>2006 GS430
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...fferences.html
The GS350 is faster than the GS430 and gets better gas mileage. It's not always better to have a V8. The 430 also has a timing belt, while the 350 has a timing chain.
*GS430(note that Lexus claims a 5.7 second 0-60, yet tests showed it ran 6-6.3 second 0-60): 14.5@95.5 and 16 city, 23 highway.
*GS350(tests showed that this actually ran closer to a 5.7 second 0-60 and the AWD version did it in 5.3 seconds): 14.0@99.5(13.8@101.x for the AWD version) and 19 city, 27 highway(18 city, 25 highway for the AWD).
I'd order it this way 2008 GS350>2007 GS350>2006 GS430
Its a lil the slower the previous GS400 but pretty comparable.. I 've driven the GS350 many times, its no way faster than a GS430.. maybe the IS350 but not the GS350.. where's your proof?
Here's my proof in this Road and Track Test comparison..
08-07-15, 07:12 AM
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Since you are buying used your best bet would be the GS350. Most likely the timing belt won't be done if you are buying a GS430 with around 80K-120K miles on it. So you' d have around a $1500 repair cost lingering. Although extremely rare, your belt could snap and your engine is done. That was always a fear of mine that stuck in the back of my head. Funny thing is that I sold my 2005 GS430 to a guy that had a 1999 LS400 with 280,000 miles on his car and he never changed the belt!! So maybe I shouldnt have worried so much.
The 450h has an even bigger expense that you may have deal with if the battery fails.
Btw I recently purchased a 2007 Gs350 awd with 83,000 at a steal for $15,300. It had no accidents and every Lexus service done up to 80K miles. All of the recalls were done. The mid exhaust pipe was done and I got the dealer to replace the rusty mufflers also! It even had new $900 Michelin tires on it!
I would have gone with the 2008 for the updates, but I would have paid $2k to 3K more for it. not worth it since I can spend far less to add the Aux output feature and other enhancements. It has been a great car so far but I do miss the power delivery of a V8 though. I'm getting V8 performance in the Gs350 but it doesn't sound and feel as smooth. I miss the muted throaty V8 sound. It does make a difference to me. Maybe in a few years I'll move up to a GS460
The 450h has an even bigger expense that you may have deal with if the battery fails.
Btw I recently purchased a 2007 Gs350 awd with 83,000 at a steal for $15,300. It had no accidents and every Lexus service done up to 80K miles. All of the recalls were done. The mid exhaust pipe was done and I got the dealer to replace the rusty mufflers also! It even had new $900 Michelin tires on it!
I would have gone with the 2008 for the updates, but I would have paid $2k to 3K more for it. not worth it since I can spend far less to add the Aux output feature and other enhancements. It has been a great car so far but I do miss the power delivery of a V8 though. I'm getting V8 performance in the Gs350 but it doesn't sound and feel as smooth. I miss the muted throaty V8 sound. It does make a difference to me. Maybe in a few years I'll move up to a GS460
Last edited by JLAWS; 08-07-15 at 07:15 AM.
08-07-15, 07:56 AM
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Well, take my word. I've owned my GS400 for almost 17 years now. No Problems. The GS430 motor is pretty much bored out GS400 motor. Let me tell you the GS430 is smoothest luxurious motor Lexus has ever put out besides the 460, but IMO I think the 430 motor is the best to date, its the same motor in the LS430, which is said to be the best Lexus ever made. I have a 2005 GS430, the last year of the 2GS, this car is so luxurious yet a beast of power especially on the hwy. My GS430 is so night and day compare to the older GS400 which shares the same bodystyle.
The Bad, the 430 motor comes in the '01-'05 2GS and 06-07 3GS or 01'-06 LS430. You can get an '06-'07 GS430 which is the first two years of 3rd Gen. To my knowledge there isn't any reliability issues with this car as far as motor-wise but the 3GS has a few kinks you can read about on this forum.. IF it were me, I would look for '06-'07 GS430 or '09'-'11 GS460 (very rare if you can find one) I omitted the '08 GS460 because of the valve spring recall for that year.
If you're okay with the older bodystyle like on the 2GS, there are a few of them around with low miles.. Newer is not always better. I work for car company and drive a lot of newer cars on regular basis, there isn't much out there like the GS unless you're willing to spend north of $60K.. If you're looking for Supreme Luxury car that is the most reliable, why not a LS430?
The Bad, the 430 motor comes in the '01-'05 2GS and 06-07 3GS or 01'-06 LS430. You can get an '06-'07 GS430 which is the first two years of 3rd Gen. To my knowledge there isn't any reliability issues with this car as far as motor-wise but the 3GS has a few kinks you can read about on this forum.. IF it were me, I would look for '06-'07 GS430 or '09'-'11 GS460 (very rare if you can find one) I omitted the '08 GS460 because of the valve spring recall for that year.
If you're okay with the older bodystyle like on the 2GS, there are a few of them around with low miles.. Newer is not always better. I work for car company and drive a lot of newer cars on regular basis, there isn't much out there like the GS unless you're willing to spend north of $60K.. If you're looking for Supreme Luxury car that is the most reliable, why not a LS430?
Thank you guys for the replys, I like the larger bases like LS460, and I just want at least once in my life to own a 8cyl sedan. does the LS460 has a belt tor a chain?
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...4857/overview/
Last edited by FastTags; 08-07-15 at 08:00 AM.
08-07-15, 08:34 AM
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If you willing to go LS's. I would def go LS460 over LS430.. I would try to get one with lower miles, like under 100K miles. '09's is about 6.5 years old so 75-80K miles on Avg. There are plenty of them with lower miles than that but I won't buy at high miles if you're planning to add more miles to it. Don't Buy '07-'08 LS460 because they had the Valve Spring recall. '09's would be my first pick on the LS460's cause they look almost the newest sharing the same bodystyle before the re-fresh but at a very good price point to get one..
08-07-15, 08:55 AM
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GS430 times:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
GS350:
http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/genes...ison-test.html
GS350 AWD:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...us-gs-350-awd/
Even your source shows that the GS430 is still almost 2mph slower than the slower GS350, which indicates that the GS430 is slower than a GS350. Not by much, but it's still slower. Just because it's a V8 does not mean it's going to be superior. And in the end, the 430 has a timing belt that will need to be replaced while the 350 has a timing chain. Or, like you said, try to find a GS460.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
GS350:
http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/genes...ison-test.html
GS350 AWD:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...us-gs-350-awd/
Even your source shows that the GS430 is still almost 2mph slower than the slower GS350, which indicates that the GS430 is slower than a GS350. Not by much, but it's still slower. Just because it's a V8 does not mean it's going to be superior. And in the end, the 430 has a timing belt that will need to be replaced while the 350 has a timing chain. Or, like you said, try to find a GS460.
All i'm saying is Real word performance is different than whats on these test and different conditions..