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Old 08-25-14, 10:19 AM
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Looking for a little guidance. We just purchased a CPO 2013 ES 300h and everything has been great. One thing they told us is that the navigation was fully up to date. Map Version is 21-12-27 [2012-06-1]. Is this the latest version available?

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Old 08-25-14, 10:34 AM
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http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order/

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Another thing to consider is that the map updates usually come near the end of the year (November time frame) so even if your current version isn't the latest, I wouldn't buy an update until the new one comes out at the end of the year.

Unless you live in a city (or travel to one) where there is a lot of road construction or new development, there isn't usually very many changes from year to year.
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Yeah, we live around DC so the roads change weekly, lol.

Looking at that site I assume I am running the 12.x version and there is a 13.1 version out. I asked my salesman about it just before I made this post and he said they only update every 3-4 years which I thought was ridiculous.
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I had my last ES350 for three years and didn't update. No major issues. At $250-$300 per update, I decided to just wait.
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Originally Posted by DaveGS4
Question... Have a 2011 and never updated... Does one update make everything
current if you buy it at end of year? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Lexi66
Question... Have a 2011 and never updated... Does one update make everything
current if you buy it at end of year? Thanks!
Yes. You do not need to buy all the previous updates before you install the latest and greatest.

At this point in the year, I'd definitely wait the 2-3 months to get the new one when it comes out.
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Originally Posted by zmark79
Yeah, we live around DC so the roads change weekly, lol.

Looking at that site I assume I am running the 12.x version and there is a 13.1 version out. I asked my salesman about it just before I made this post and he said they only update every 3-4 years which I thought was ridiculous.
I am not sure if your salesperson is correct. Toyota had a Navi update every year in November when I had my Camry hybrid just prior to the 300h. All the nav systems use the same map data that gets updated by Navquest (or something like that). The nav systems are virtually identical in the Toyota and the Lexus. It seems unlikely that Toyota would update the maps more frequently than Lexus.
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The navigation unit will continue to work without updating the maps. It just won't know about any new roads. Toyota only updates the maps about once a year, and even then they are almost a year old already.

If you actually need "current" (or very recent) maps, for an area where the roads are being changed often (such as, Washington DC), buy a portable Garmin navigator. With those, you can get a subscription to map updates, and they update them every quarter.

Lexus _could_ create significant value for us customers by simply providing map updates on a regular basis, at very little cost. That they have (so far) chosen not to, speaks volumes...
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Originally Posted by SLH
Lexus _could_ create significant value for us customers by simply providing map updates on a regular basis, at very little cost. That they have (so far) chosen not to, speaks volumes...
Care to share what other car maker offers quarterly Nav updates?

Oh and prices please.
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