Timing Belt Questions
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Timing Belt Questions
I think I'm due for a replacement timing belt. When is this supposed to happen? And whether the engine can literally freeze up if it's not done within recommendations?
By the way, my ES is a '97, with 93-thousand miles on it. Lastly, can a Toyota dealership take care of this?
Thanks for the tips.
By the way, my ES is a '97, with 93-thousand miles on it. Lastly, can a Toyota dealership take care of this?
Thanks for the tips.
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93k, its probably gettin close. The engine won't freeze (as in seize up due to no oil), it just won't run. My firend has a 97 Camry and she just had hers done at 100k. The car was not running optimally and you could hear noises from the timing belt area when it was starting to go. You don't want it to break when you are in the middle of nowhere at 2 in the morning. Be prepared, it may be about 5 bills.
The 02 ES manual says replace at 90k mi.
Call Lexus or Toyota. See if they will give you up front pricing. Then call a reputable independent mechanic that knows Lexus and Toyotas.
The 02 ES manual says replace at 90k mi.
Call Lexus or Toyota. See if they will give you up front pricing. Then call a reputable independent mechanic that knows Lexus and Toyotas.
#4
The ES300 does not have an interferance-type engine, so don't worry too much about the timing belt breaking and ******* up the engine with bent valves and whatnot. Like steviej said, better to get it changed sooner than later.
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ha this is funny
i called lexus dealer they said $700 parts and labour
called the toyota dealer theys said $350
none included a water pump replacement, just the belt, parts and labour! $350 difference was just for the name, i even brought the two servce reps side by side and asked them (it was at the same drealership), they were like "umm umm.. well, umm" haha they couldnt even feed me some BS to justify the $350 premium!!!
(all prices in cdn$, $700 = $440 usd)
another weird thing:
my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6, but the svc manual for the camry says change it every 96000 km (60k miles), and my lex manual says the same thing, but the dealer insisted its ok until 160k (100k miles) , i dont get it!
i called lexus dealer they said $700 parts and labour
called the toyota dealer theys said $350
none included a water pump replacement, just the belt, parts and labour! $350 difference was just for the name, i even brought the two servce reps side by side and asked them (it was at the same drealership), they were like "umm umm.. well, umm" haha they couldnt even feed me some BS to justify the $350 premium!!!
(all prices in cdn$, $700 = $440 usd)
another weird thing:
my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6, but the svc manual for the camry says change it every 96000 km (60k miles), and my lex manual says the same thing, but the dealer insisted its ok until 160k (100k miles) , i dont get it!
Last edited by lexusation; 11-26-02 at 02:56 AM.
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Originally posted by lexusation
another weird thing: my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6
another weird thing: my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6
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95 es300 timing belt
I have a 95 es300 and I had mine done at Lexus for $325. Toyota deealer said they could not do it - even though they do all of my otheer maintenance. they said the parts/tools needed were slightly different. I did mine at 105k with the rationale being that if i keep it until 105k, i will probably keep it for a while so i might as well.
#10
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Re: 95 es300 timing belt
Originally posted by Gekko
I have a 95 es300 and I had mine done at Lexus for $325. Toyota deealer said they could not do it - even though they do all of my otheer maintenance. they said the parts/tools needed were slightly different. I did mine at 105k with the rationale being that if i keep it until 105k, i will probably keep it for a while so i might as well.
I have a 95 es300 and I had mine done at Lexus for $325. Toyota deealer said they could not do it - even though they do all of my otheer maintenance. they said the parts/tools needed were slightly different. I did mine at 105k with the rationale being that if i keep it until 105k, i will probably keep it for a while so i might as well.
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Originally posted by lexusation
ha this is funny
i called lexus dealer they said $700 parts and labour
called the toyota dealer theys said $350
none included a water pump replacement, just the belt, parts and labour! $350 difference was just for the name, i even brought the two servce reps side by side and asked them (it was at the same drealership), they were like "umm umm.. well, umm" haha they couldnt even feed me some BS to justify the $350 premium!!!
(all prices in cdn$, $700 = $440 usd)
another weird thing:
my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6, but the svc manual for the camry says change it every 96000 km (60k miles), and my lex manual says the same thing, but the dealer insisted its ok until 160k (100k miles) , i dont get it!
ha this is funny
i called lexus dealer they said $700 parts and labour
called the toyota dealer theys said $350
none included a water pump replacement, just the belt, parts and labour! $350 difference was just for the name, i even brought the two servce reps side by side and asked them (it was at the same drealership), they were like "umm umm.. well, umm" haha they couldnt even feed me some BS to justify the $350 premium!!!
(all prices in cdn$, $700 = $440 usd)
another weird thing:
my 99 es engine = 99 camry V6, but the svc manual for the camry says change it every 96000 km (60k miles), and my lex manual says the same thing, but the dealer insisted its ok until 160k (100k miles) , i dont get it!
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93 es300 how can I tell if I have a bent valve in the head. Pull the heads and replace head gaskets. When putting back together did not set the cams to the correct spots. Sadly tried starting a few times, no start. Pull the belt and set the timing correctly. The car will start but pops when raising the RPM. How can I tell if I bent a valve in the head when I was trying to start it?
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93 es300 how can I tell if I have a bent valve in the head. Pull the heads and replace head gaskets. When putting back together did not set the cams to the correct spots. Sadly tried starting a few times, no start. Pull the belt and set the timing correctly. The car will start but pops when raising the RPM. How can I tell if I bent a valve in the head when I was trying to start it?
Regardless, your '93 ES300 has the 3VZ-FE 3.0 liter motor and it's valve train is non interference. Even if you timed it backward you should have enough clearance inside your motor so the valves won't touch the pistons. I suppose you could get to the point where they would if you'd had a significant amount of head shaved away, but that would be a stretch...
If you still think it might be a valve, you can do a compression and a leak down test, if the valve is bent or the ring is shot it won't hold pressure. I think you might be able to rent these tools from an advance auto. However, any independent mechanic could perform this test for you. I have to say, I've never had it happen, but generally speaking I thought when you bend a valve the engine will barely run if at all.
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You didn't bend a valve. You probably still don't have the camshaft timing correct and the engine is backfiring.
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can anyone send me a PDF or a link where I can see the timing marks location on the both cams and the crank and how they line up. PLEASE
THANKS again for your replies back
THANKS again for your replies back