New Leather Seats
#1
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
New Leather Seats
I'm looking to replace the leather seat covers in my es, which has become hard brittle, and cracked everywhere
New Leather Seats . com quoted me $570 for the front two seats with European -grained leather seating surfaces (sides and back are vinyl)
So...I was browsing EBAY and found 100% leather seat covers with the same European seat leather (I really doubt any difference between the leather suppliers) 575 SHIPPED! for ALL FOUR SEATS!!!!
I've bought some things on ebay that were a waste of money...(you get what you pay for) but being a college student, I really have to consider the ebay seat covers..
These are in black, but the seller sent me a color sample pic..
The seat pattern is different (the inserts) but they do look more modern compared to the oem design. The seat leather is also stitched in a waterfall design.
Newleatherseats.com has sent me samples, but i am willing to sacrifice some color variation for new leather in all the seats.
I'm leaning more on the color C, but maybe D in my tan interior.
Do you think its worth it?
New Leather Seats . com quoted me $570 for the front two seats with European -grained leather seating surfaces (sides and back are vinyl)
So...I was browsing EBAY and found 100% leather seat covers with the same European seat leather (I really doubt any difference between the leather suppliers) 575 SHIPPED! for ALL FOUR SEATS!!!!
I've bought some things on ebay that were a waste of money...(you get what you pay for) but being a college student, I really have to consider the ebay seat covers..
These are in black, but the seller sent me a color sample pic..
The seat pattern is different (the inserts) but they do look more modern compared to the oem design. The seat leather is also stitched in a waterfall design.
Newleatherseats.com has sent me samples, but i am willing to sacrifice some color variation for new leather in all the seats.
I'm leaning more on the color C, but maybe D in my tan interior.
Do you think its worth it?
#2
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Yes, new leather seats . com quoted me 570 + shipping for the two front seats.
The listing on ebay is for 575 for all for seats shipped!
I just contacted the seller about the seat pattern...the rear seat headrest pattern doesn't look right to me...
The listing on ebay is for 575 for all for seats shipped!
I just contacted the seller about the seat pattern...the rear seat headrest pattern doesn't look right to me...
#3
Lexucanafer
I've never heard of 'waterfall' stitching, what does that mean?
#4
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
For 92-94 es's the front seat middle-front insert starts at the middle seam, then 'flows' down over the seat and down the front. (I think 92-94 es's have 100% leather seats...is that right? Anyways...Lexus decided to cost-cut 95-96, only leather seating surfaces, and instead of the leather in the front, there is a seam with leather on the top middle insert, and vinyl on the front.
The seller said they will use the factory seat patterns, and i haven't heard any complaints from other buyer's so i'm going to go ahead and buy these covers
The seller said they will use the factory seat patterns, and i haven't heard any complaints from other buyer's so i'm going to go ahead and buy these covers
#6
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Its been a week and a half and i have not gotten the leather samples from leatherseats.com.....
So i went with the Ebay seats instead
$574
Will be here in a week
I chose the tan "C" color.
So i went with the Ebay seats instead
$574
Will be here in a week
I chose the tan "C" color.
#7
Lexus Champion
well it depends on the interior color and stuff. eah im with ariyanna, post pics once it has arrived!
if you look at the 1993 brochure in pdf format, they have leather listed as option. nothing else, so that seems to lend some proof to there being 100% leather
but also, looking at my own car, i have all leather, unless im being fooled? it sure seems like it. my car has every option [unforunately, that moonroof too, which makes my head skim the ceiling once in a while], except automatic transmission.
also, it is listed as a 1300 dollar optoin, that leather trim package, and that was in 1993 ! of course, that's just MSRP value for the leather... dealer was free to set price for options as they saw fit .. then at least, i dont konw about now
if you look at the 1993 brochure in pdf format, they have leather listed as option. nothing else, so that seems to lend some proof to there being 100% leather
but also, looking at my own car, i have all leather, unless im being fooled? it sure seems like it. my car has every option [unforunately, that moonroof too, which makes my head skim the ceiling once in a while], except automatic transmission.
also, it is listed as a 1300 dollar optoin, that leather trim package, and that was in 1993 ! of course, that's just MSRP value for the leather... dealer was free to set price for options as they saw fit .. then at least, i dont konw about now
Last edited by llcoolpass; 04-12-08 at 06:15 PM.
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#9
Lexus Champion
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Sure, its nice and fuzzy on top, but i can feel the baked, hard leather underneath.
These seat covers i ordered are a replacement, meaning the old leather comes off, and the new leather comes in, with the full oem installation (hog rings)
I'm going to add some Firm side bolstering foam for the front seats too
#11
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Well...
I FINALLY got the leather samples from leatherseats.com (2 weeks later) because they forgot to put enough postage on it
O well, I already ordered them from Ebay. (Those have been stitched and are being shipped)
Anyways, I was disappointed at the leather quality from leatherseats.com
It is not topgrain leather. It is corrected grain leather, where the leather is buffed smooth, and stamped. The stamping is not even natural looking
I'm also not sure where the source of this leather comes from.
I know my leather seats are coming from Hong Kong (China) but they claim they buy their hides from Europe.
I know their leather is stamped (judging from the pics), but I'm getting 100% leather for all 4 seats.
Anyways, i'll compare the quality when i receive my covers.
I don't know what type of leather Lexus uses. They don not stamp their leather though, so it must be a pigmented top grain.
I FINALLY got the leather samples from leatherseats.com (2 weeks later) because they forgot to put enough postage on it
O well, I already ordered them from Ebay. (Those have been stitched and are being shipped)
Anyways, I was disappointed at the leather quality from leatherseats.com
It is not topgrain leather. It is corrected grain leather, where the leather is buffed smooth, and stamped. The stamping is not even natural looking
I'm also not sure where the source of this leather comes from.
I know my leather seats are coming from Hong Kong (China) but they claim they buy their hides from Europe.
I know their leather is stamped (judging from the pics), but I'm getting 100% leather for all 4 seats.
Anyways, i'll compare the quality when i receive my covers.
I don't know what type of leather Lexus uses. They don not stamp their leather though, so it must be a pigmented top grain.
#12
Lexucanafer
Yeah, those samples look more like vinyl that's made to look like leather
I wonder if you could buy covers that are made from leather to look like vinyl...no, now wait a minute...that don't make no sense either
Can't wait to see how your all-leather Ebay covers look installed
Be sure to keep us posted.
I wonder if you could buy covers that are made from leather to look like vinyl...no, now wait a minute...that don't make no sense either
Can't wait to see how your all-leather Ebay covers look installed
Be sure to keep us posted.
#13
I wish I would have read this thread earlier. Katzkin's products are awesome and affordably priced. They don't have the 92-96 listed, but a local installer can get the patterns and ship em out. Dangit.
#15
Lexucanafer
"Come to mamma, tuan!"
Last edited by Lexucan; 04-21-08 at 10:09 PM.