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Old 02-04-16, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by XutvJet
Bolt-on intake and exhaust mods WILL NOT increase the motor's ability to breath further into the rpm range. Neither will a tune. These mods, assuming they work as advertised, will only elevate the power band, not lengthen it.


The ONLY way to increase the point at which peak power is achieved is to dig into the heads, revise the cam lift/duration, change intake runner design, etc.


I would heed the warning about raising the limiter. These motor's aren't making power above ~6,000-6,200rpms thus you should be shifting at that point or slightly beyond and definitely not at the 6,800rpm fuel cut. It's just wasted time and it will hurt 1/4 mile ET/MPH. Sure, by the seat of the pants it feels like the motor is still pulling above 6,000rpms, but the reality is power is slowly bleeding off. Less power = less acceleration. Simple as that.


If you must increase the limiter, say for road racing where revving it out longer is more beneficial/safer than shifting, then I wouldn't raise it more that 200rpms.


With that said, I can't believe no one as yet to do a simple gear by gear ideal shift point calculation for 1/4 mile performance. I think many of you would be surprised by what the ideal shift points really are. By just eyeballing it, I'm seeing the following:


1-2: 6600rpms
2-3: 6400rpms
3-4: 6300rpms
4-5: 6200rpms

lol, try shifting at those RPMS at the track and let me know if those times will match redline times.
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Originally Posted by ljdsong
Got the message from rafi, my ecu is shipped back with speed limiter @ 7200. What an OUTSTANDING service!!! Thank you RR racing!!!
You mean rev limiter lol.
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Originally Posted by XutvJet
Bolt-on intake and exhaust mods WILL NOT increase the motor's ability to breath further into the rpm range. Neither will a tune. These mods, assuming they work as advertised, will only elevate the power band, not lengthen it. The ONLY way to increase the point at which peak power is achieved is to dig into the heads, revise the cam lift/duration, change intake runner design, etc. I would heed the warning about raising the limiter. These motor's aren't making power above ~6,000-6,200rpms thus you should be shifting at that point or slightly beyond and definitely not at the 6,800rpm fuel cut. It's just wasted time and it will hurt 1/4 mile ET/MPH. Sure, by the seat of the pants it feels like the motor is still pulling above 6,000rpms, but the reality is power is slowly bleeding off. Less power = less acceleration. Simple as that. If you must increase the limiter, say for road racing where revving it out longer is more beneficial/safer than shifting, then I wouldn't raise it more that 200rpms. With that said, I can't believe no one as yet to do a simple gear by gear ideal shift point calculation for 1/4 mile performance. I think many of you would be surprised by what the ideal shift points really are. By just eyeballing it, I'm seeing the following: 1-2: 6600rpms 2-3: 6400rpms 3-4: 6300rpms 4-5: 6200rpms
What the crack sauce r u talking about? Lol short shifting a linear power NA car just puts u in a weaker band in the next gear and so on.
Old 02-04-16, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ljdsong
Got the message from rafi, my ecu is shipped back with speed limiter @ 7200. What an OUTSTANDING service!!! Thank you RR racing!!!
Originally Posted by ISF4life
What does that mean ? Lolz with speed limiter at 7200 ? Lolz
Originally Posted by jspecvtec
You mean rev limiter lol.
One revolution or 10,000, an "rev" limiter is really limiting crank and piston speeds (or velocities as some might use). Wether a Freudian slip or a simple mistake, I'm with you ljdsong...

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Originally Posted by MileHIFcar
Agreed with the above, now that there is an option of a 7200 or 7400 limited/redline would be nice to see some dyno runs with the new limiter in place to see what the power curve looks like with a stock car/exhaust car & finally a I/H/E car ideally anyway
Maybe someone will pull the motor apart, destroke it, rework heads and cams and make a ISFA. That would be badass.
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Quick 20-100 pull.

Road has a "slight" uphill incline but it gives you an idea of how it sounds like.

Mods: Drop in filter, exhaust and RR Racing Tune.

1st gear rips so fast I didn't have time to grab the shift paddle fast enough.

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Cool, have u notice looking at the video the gauge on the right and the electronic mph is little off ? Nice pull
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Originally Posted by ISF4life
Cool, have u notice looking at the video the gauge on the right and the electronic mph is little off ? Nice pull
I think it's just the angle from the side.
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Originally Posted by Joker4096
I think it's just the angle from the side.
Yeah it's the angle.
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nice vid RSXimus
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I have ppe headers, which option on the Oxygen sensor question.. ???
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^^^Very nice!! We want a longer video with some more high speed pulls in Mexico!
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Originally Posted by RRRacing
We have tested cars that are fully catted, and fully catless. So far, none of the testing indicates that we need a specific tune for catless vs catted (which would require tune upgrades).
Thats definitely a plus! good to hear that!

That mid range though, it seems like it got a lot better.
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Originally Posted by RSXiMUS
Quick 20-100 pull. Road has a "slight" uphill incline but it gives you an idea of how it sounds like. Mods: Drop in filter, exhaust and RR Racing Tune. 1st gear rips so fast I didn't have time to grab the shift paddle fast enough. Video Link: https://youtu.be/2de7OES3jWM
Dang nice it does seem to pull harder than my car does currently.
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this sounds great!!! hopefully to be a mod for next christmas jajaja


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