AWD necessary in MD/DC/VA?
#46
Lexus Fanatic
I don't care fwd, rwd, awd, or 4x4. A good set of winter tires makes much more of a difference. Not enough can be said about the effectiveness of winter tires, and your ability to get around easier. Even on my Land Rover I get winter tires. It's silly not to unless there is no way you can afford them.
If I lived somewhere that we had colder, snowier winters I would definitely get winter tires. For instance when we travel up to Albany, NY for new years every year, its much colder there obviously the difference even in the Jeep on all season tires vs driving in the snow here is considerable.
Last edited by SW17LS; 09-27-16 at 10:30 AM.
#47
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I don't care fwd, rwd, awd, or 4x4. A good set of winter tires makes much more of a difference. Not enough can be said about the effectiveness of winter tires, and your ability to get around easier. Even on my Land Rover I get winter tires. It's silly not to unless there is no way you can afford them.
#48
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That logic is like saying you shouldn't bother to wear a seatbelt because your car could be struck by a falling tree and you could be killed that way...that logic doesn't compute.
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Yup +1 totally agree. A good set of snow tires will win against AWD and all-season. We have a 4Runner with all-season Michelins and our Matrix we have snow tires on it, the Matrix handles snowy roads so much better. The grip is far superior. That is not to say that the full time system in the 4Runner is no good, its the tires are not as good.
#49
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That logic is like saying you shouldn't bother to wear a seatbelt because your car could be struck by a falling tree and you could be killed that way...that logic doesn't compute.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-27-16 at 03:06 PM.
#50
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It was an example for the sake of argument Mike lol
#51
Lexus Fanatic
Yes, understood.
On a slightly unrelated note, I don't believe in laughing or glossing over other people's misfortunes or troubles....even if they bring it on themselves (there's an old saying, of course....."There, but for the grace of God, goeth Me"). But, to be honest, it can sometimes be difficult not to chuckle (assuming they didn't hurt themselves or anyone else) when some idiot winds up in a ditch or snowbank because he or she over-bragged about their vehicle's (or driving) capability, or thought the laws of physics don't apply to them.
On a slightly unrelated note, I don't believe in laughing or glossing over other people's misfortunes or troubles....even if they bring it on themselves (there's an old saying, of course....."There, but for the grace of God, goeth Me"). But, to be honest, it can sometimes be difficult not to chuckle (assuming they didn't hurt themselves or anyone else) when some idiot winds up in a ditch or snowbank because he or she over-bragged about their vehicle's (or driving) capability, or thought the laws of physics don't apply to them.
#52
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Yeah nothing compensates for stupid.
#53
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Yes, I am from MA. About 20 min north to be exact. Snow removal in the city of Boston may be better than DC (have you lived in the Boston area?), but I do not have first hand experience living in DC. I live in a Suburban town and we do not get good snow removal like Boston.. I did plenty fine with just some blizzaks. As ive said earlier, experience and good snow tires is a must for driving RWD in snow.
#54
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Not going to help.
The event you're trying to avoid by improving your car isn't it - it's all the other drivers who slide straight into you when the 1st snowflake touches down.
The key is not RWD vs. FWD.
If you don't have enough ground clearance you're stuck no matter what - the car just planes up onto the snow in the center of the lane until the wheels don't do anything. Yes, that includes trucks, been there done that in upstate New York. I went through some of the worst NYC winters in a 1963 Dodge Dart with a single snow chain on the (non-posi) right rear tire.
The event you're trying to avoid by improving your car isn't it - it's all the other drivers who slide straight into you when the 1st snowflake touches down.
The key is not RWD vs. FWD.
If you don't have enough ground clearance you're stuck no matter what - the car just planes up onto the snow in the center of the lane until the wheels don't do anything. Yes, that includes trucks, been there done that in upstate New York. I went through some of the worst NYC winters in a 1963 Dodge Dart with a single snow chain on the (non-posi) right rear tire.
I learned this the hard way with a 2002 WRX i had bought brand new when it first came to the states. Those commercials make you feel invincible sometimes... Good ol' marketing..
#55
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Yes, I am from MA. About 20 min north to be exact. Snow removal in the city of Boston may be better than DC (have you lived in the Boston area?), but I do not have first hand experience living in DC. I live in a Suburban town and we do not get good snow removal like Boston.. I did plenty fine with just some blizzaks. As ive said earlier, experience and good snow tires is a must for driving RWD in snow.
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