-2016 Accord-
#62
I think its a handsome, well proportioned and sporty look that is ruined by a bunch of stupid chrome trim.
I mean this is an Accord, not a freaking Chrysler 300 or Fleetwood Brougham. Seriously, change that ugly front grill around, get rid of the chrome door handles and all that chrome trim on the rear and it would look 1000x better.
I mean this is an Accord, not a freaking Chrysler 300 or Fleetwood Brougham. Seriously, change that ugly front grill around, get rid of the chrome door handles and all that chrome trim on the rear and it would look 1000x better.
#63
#64
If I am an Acura TLX owner I may be upset about how similar the new Accord is to the TLX.
Honda has taken the approach the past few years to make the Accord their flagship model while ignoring Acura a lot.
In 2013 the Accord, RLX, and MDX all had the same advanced tech and features.
In 2014 the TLX was upgraded.
In 2015 the CRV got upgraded.
In 2016 the RDX and ILX finally got all the upgrades that were available in the 2013 Accord and 2015 CRV.
With the Accord and TLX being so similar I am guessing Acura is looking to interchange parts as much as possible.
Comparing the Accord to the TLX:
Price (2015)- TLX base with a 4 cylinder engine is about $32500 / According Touring with the 6 cylinder engine is about $34500
Length - TLX is 190.3 inches while the Accord is 191.4 inches
Width - TLX is 73 inches while the Accord is 72.8 inches
Height - TLX is 57 inches while the Accord is 57.7 inches
Looking at the Lexus ES, Toyota Camry, and Toyota Avalon shows some differentiation.
Camry is 190.9 inches long to the ES being 193.3 inches long to the Avalon being 195.3 inches long. While each is only 2 inches different from the prior it does show differentiation between the Camry and ES.
Honda has taken the approach the past few years to make the Accord their flagship model while ignoring Acura a lot.
In 2013 the Accord, RLX, and MDX all had the same advanced tech and features.
In 2014 the TLX was upgraded.
In 2015 the CRV got upgraded.
In 2016 the RDX and ILX finally got all the upgrades that were available in the 2013 Accord and 2015 CRV.
With the Accord and TLX being so similar I am guessing Acura is looking to interchange parts as much as possible.
Comparing the Accord to the TLX:
Price (2015)- TLX base with a 4 cylinder engine is about $32500 / According Touring with the 6 cylinder engine is about $34500
Length - TLX is 190.3 inches while the Accord is 191.4 inches
Width - TLX is 73 inches while the Accord is 72.8 inches
Height - TLX is 57 inches while the Accord is 57.7 inches
Looking at the Lexus ES, Toyota Camry, and Toyota Avalon shows some differentiation.
Camry is 190.9 inches long to the ES being 193.3 inches long to the Avalon being 195.3 inches long. While each is only 2 inches different from the prior it does show differentiation between the Camry and ES.
#65
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if honda makes improvements from acura, they get criticized
if acura makes improvements, they get criticized
if acura doesn't make improvements, they get criticized
if honda doesn't make improvements, they get criticized.
if acura makes improvements, they get criticized
if acura doesn't make improvements, they get criticized
if honda doesn't make improvements, they get criticized.
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#66
Lexus Champion
It's a wonder they stay in business.
#67
Lexus Fanatic
I agree that auto companies should not be unfairly criticized or harped on, just for the sake of harping. But, despite the continuing high build-quality and reliability of their products, its not stretching things, IMO, to say that Acura's leadership, marketing, and stubbornness has not been very impressive.
#68
If I am an Acura TLX owner I may be upset about how similar the new Accord is to the TLX.
Honda has taken the approach the past few years to make the Accord their flagship model while ignoring Acura a lot.
In 2013 the Accord, RLX, and MDX all had the same advanced tech and features.
In 2014 the TLX was upgraded.
In 2015 the CRV got upgraded.
In 2016 the RDX and ILX finally got all the upgrades that were available in the 2013 Accord and 2015 CRV.
With the Accord and TLX being so similar I am guessing Acura is looking to interchange parts as much as possible.
Comparing the Accord to the TLX:
Price (2015)- TLX base with a 4 cylinder engine is about $32500 / According Touring with the 6 cylinder engine is about $34500
Length - TLX is 190.3 inches while the Accord is 191.4 inches
Width - TLX is 73 inches while the Accord is 72.8 inches
Height - TLX is 57 inches while the Accord is 57.7 inches
Looking at the Lexus ES, Toyota Camry, and Toyota Avalon shows some differentiation.
Camry is 190.9 inches long to the ES being 193.3 inches long to the Avalon being 195.3 inches long. While each is only 2 inches different from the prior it does show differentiation between the Camry and ES.
Honda has taken the approach the past few years to make the Accord their flagship model while ignoring Acura a lot.
In 2013 the Accord, RLX, and MDX all had the same advanced tech and features.
In 2014 the TLX was upgraded.
In 2015 the CRV got upgraded.
In 2016 the RDX and ILX finally got all the upgrades that were available in the 2013 Accord and 2015 CRV.
With the Accord and TLX being so similar I am guessing Acura is looking to interchange parts as much as possible.
Comparing the Accord to the TLX:
Price (2015)- TLX base with a 4 cylinder engine is about $32500 / According Touring with the 6 cylinder engine is about $34500
Length - TLX is 190.3 inches while the Accord is 191.4 inches
Width - TLX is 73 inches while the Accord is 72.8 inches
Height - TLX is 57 inches while the Accord is 57.7 inches
Looking at the Lexus ES, Toyota Camry, and Toyota Avalon shows some differentiation.
Camry is 190.9 inches long to the ES being 193.3 inches long to the Avalon being 195.3 inches long. While each is only 2 inches different from the prior it does show differentiation between the Camry and ES.
I wish Toyota and Lexus did this. Its been how long since the LS and the 8-speed transmission been out? Now everyone Lexus competes with has 7-9 speed transmissions in almost all their cars, while Lexus barley has it in a few cars, and Toyota still has 4-speeds in their cars.
#69
Lexus Fanatic
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honda has made some decent progress after toe stubs like that craptastic civic version a few years back, the crosstour, and generally lame hybrids, but the cr-v is selling like hotcakes and i wouldn't be surprised to see the hr-v sell in HUGE numbers as sedan sales continue to shrink in favor of cuv/suvs. the new pilot is a big improvement, although i saw one on the road and thought its proportions looked bad, like the wheelbase/track is too small for the big body.
back to the '16 accord here... i agree with others the front/rear chrome is a bit much, but some nice improvements otherwise.
#70
Lexus Fanatic
the crosstour, and generally lame hybrids,
i wouldn't be surprised to see the hr-v sell in HUGE numbers as sedan sales continue to shrink in favor of cuv/suvs.
back to the '16 accord here... i agree with others the front/rear chrome is a bit much, but some nice improvements otherwise.
#71
Someone mentioned stubbornness above. I think that is a good observation for Acura. Honda is a little quicker to make changes to keep up with the market.
Acura goes with a 6 to 7 year cycle.
Year 1 - car redesign
Year 2 and 3 - very few if any changes
Year 3 - refresh
Year 4 and 5 - very few if any changes
Year 6 / Year 1 - Redesign
for the RDX Year 1 was 2013. The Premium / Luxury companies were all moving toward LED lights and LED DRLs but Acura left those off the RDX. Ford Escape was launched with all the features.
2014 - Acura only changed 1 color for the RDX and nothing else (Jeep Cherokee was launched with all the premium features not in the RDX plus LED DRLs). Acura MDX and TLX are upgraded with the new tech and LED headlights.
2015 - no changes to the RDX (Honda CRV gets all the new features, Lincoln MKC and Lexus NX are launched with all the new advanced features, while others like the Hyundai Santa Fe Sport get DRLs and some of the advanced features)
2016 - RDX finally gets refreshed with all the advanced features but still does not get the Earth Dreams engine.
I would have thought that in 2014 they should have added the headlights (if nothing else) to the RDX since all the premium vehicles had the LED DRLs. In 2015 they should have added the safety features. since they knew the NX and Cherokee were competition.
Acura goes with a 6 to 7 year cycle.
Year 1 - car redesign
Year 2 and 3 - very few if any changes
Year 3 - refresh
Year 4 and 5 - very few if any changes
Year 6 / Year 1 - Redesign
for the RDX Year 1 was 2013. The Premium / Luxury companies were all moving toward LED lights and LED DRLs but Acura left those off the RDX. Ford Escape was launched with all the features.
2014 - Acura only changed 1 color for the RDX and nothing else (Jeep Cherokee was launched with all the premium features not in the RDX plus LED DRLs). Acura MDX and TLX are upgraded with the new tech and LED headlights.
2015 - no changes to the RDX (Honda CRV gets all the new features, Lincoln MKC and Lexus NX are launched with all the new advanced features, while others like the Hyundai Santa Fe Sport get DRLs and some of the advanced features)
2016 - RDX finally gets refreshed with all the advanced features but still does not get the Earth Dreams engine.
I would have thought that in 2014 they should have added the headlights (if nothing else) to the RDX since all the premium vehicles had the LED DRLs. In 2015 they should have added the safety features. since they knew the NX and Cherokee were competition.
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