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Old 04-29-14, 12:35 AM
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maybe i'm missing something, but in my earlier post i pointed out toyota's said on their q&a site that they're only moving 1000 jobs while leaving 2300, so it's hardly like they're leaving CA.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
maybe i'm missing something, but in my earlier post i pointed out toyota's said on their q&a site that they're only moving 1000 jobs while leaving 2300, so it's hardly like they're leaving CA.
It seems 2300 jobs will remain state-wide, not specifically in Torrance, however. Just highlighting that the city of Torrance will suffer as a result.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
maybe i'm missing something, but in my earlier post i pointed out toyota's said on their q&a site that they're only moving 1000 jobs while leaving 2300, so it's hardly like they're leaving CA.
True, but in the future the new job postings probably aren't going to be Torrance based.
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taxes and costs have risen in Cali since 2006 as well, makes more sense to get out. Many companies have already done it, writing is on the wall.
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says here 3k are moving

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...#axzz30DUFeeBa
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from Torrence, it is 2000 by 2016 and another 1000 by 2017...... then there are more people from other states for the total of 4k in Plano.

If people are going to be left with same salaries like the website states, then they will make considerably more money in TX, with cost of living calculated in. It is a lot cheaper to live there.
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they get a lump sum relocation fee too, use that for a downpayment on a house here, sell their overpriced house there. They are going to come out on top easily - no state income tax, dramatically cheaper housing and cost of living.

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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
they get a lump sum relocation fee too, use that for a downpayment on a house here, sell their overpriced house there. They are going to come out on top easily - no state income tax, dramatically cheaper housing and cost of living.
^^This.

If I was a Toyota employee in California I'd be kicking down the door to be the first one to get a relocation package.

Maybe the attractions of California aren't my thing though, so for me it's mostly negatives.
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Old 04-29-14, 08:38 AM
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Q&A
Q&A: Toyota's Lentz on what triggered the move, and the upheaval ahead

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...EM02/140429873

For those that want to know....
 
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
ok Joey - enough. if you want to debate the merits or lack thereof of corporate behavior, toyota's move, or california vs. texas, start a thread in the debate forum.
But you started off with anti left/Obama/white house rant. Brettjacks states

This is not a socialist utopia, and if you're looking for that, you're in the wrong place.
Why is Joey-E being told to stop but no one else?

This is why I asked for people to keep political commentary aside or to another thread as this turns this thread into something that will be moved to the debate forum where people that lurk (image if people from Toyota lurk) can't see what is being said
 
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Mike does have a point...I was taking it political as well, albeit in response to Joey-E.

Hope this thread doesn't get moved...I can't read it in the Debate Forum.
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
Mike does have a point...I was taking it political as well, albeit in response to Joey-E.

Hope this thread doesn't get moved...I can't read it in the Debate Forum.
Thanks Brett...we all know California's pluses and minuses and Texas as well. Lets not all act like Texas doesn't have issues as well. Obviously Toyota felt that Texas was the best move for the company and that is saying a lot, we don't have to say anything, Toyota has spoken which again speaks volumes.

The Q&A discusses their thoughts on the move which was not really covered at the initial news links.
 
Old 04-29-14, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LexFather
This is why I asked for people to keep political commentary aside or to another thread as this turns this thread into something that will be moved to the debate forum where people that lurk (image if people from Toyota lurk) can't see what is being said
I agree with at least part of what you're saying (and where you're coming from). But, at the same time, one can't deny that Toyota's HQ, just like Nissan's several years ago, is leaving California for essentially political reasons....the way California politicians run and tax the state. So, any credible and meaningful discussion of this issue (per the thread-topic) is, by its very nature, going to include at least SOME politics in it.....on a state level, if not national.
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I agree with at least part of what you're saying (and where you're coming from). But, at the same time, one can't deny that Toyota's HQ, just like Nissan's several years ago, is leaving California for essentially political reasons....the way California politicians run and tax the state. So, any credible and meaningful discussion of this issue (per the thread-topic) is, by its very nature, going to include at least SOME politics in it.....on a state level, if not national.
Funny, Toyota didn't state any of that in their Q&A which obviously you didn't read Mike. Please explain where it says Toyota left for political reasons.

What Mr. Jim Lentz stated, CEO of Toyota.

What was the genesis of this? Was it Akio Toyoda’s idea? Your idea?

When I was made CEO of North America, Akio made it quite clear that he wants North America to be self-reliant. He wanted me to reflect on whether we are ready to be self-reliant and whether we are structured in such a way to take that responsibility. It became clear to me that, although the four-affiliate structure worked in the past, it was going to get into our way in the future. I wanted to get sales, manufacturing and corporate operations in one location to be more efficient, and to put more resources against engineering and design.
Toyota already has operations in Texas so lets stop acting like Toyota just decided to move because of what you and others think. Obviously they felt this was the best move for them. Surely some reasons stated (taxes, politics etc) had something to do with it but it surely was not the SOLE REASON as stated here. California has many benefits including an incredible talent pool and being arguably the car capital of the world.
 
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
^^This.

If I was a Toyota employee in California I'd be kicking down the door to be the first one to get a relocation package.

Maybe the attractions of California aren't my thing though, so for me it's mostly negatives.
and they will have extra money each year to take a vacation back in cali to see friends and family
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