RXSF

Just had a chance to watch the broadcast. Gotta say, even though his vice was a bit quivery, I really liked the videos and the new marketing perspective

pman6

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hlee12

i like the direction to go bold. but i don't like the direction of just doing what hyundai's been dong - collage of various design.

i also don't see a cohesive design in that awful front. i'm fine with everything else except the front. just looks like big giant mouth with lots of nasty stuff in it.

big in your face grill can work, but it's very hard to pull it off. what you have it here is another love/hate design. and i happen to hate it.

yowps3

Yes I understand your agony.

A good example is the Genesis Coupe. The pre facelift had a nice sporty yet elegant face.



But then Hyundai done the facelift and transformed the face from pretty to ugly

bitkahuna

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generally these large grills look bad (to me) on white cars. they look fine (to me) on dark cars.

hlee12

lol

so true. i despise that refreshed gen coupe. just an awful way to portray 'i'm different, please look at me!'. i love how gen coupe rides. it reminded me of my modded e46 330i back in the days.

but that refreshed face... something only mother could love...

hlee12

i do agree that looks better. also remove the H grill and it blends well.

but still. i hate the nostrils on the hood. i just hate the catfish smile. they really fouled it up with current gen coupe IMO. it's a very unfortunate nice car.

there are some hyundai grill that works. this concept could actually work.

it's just a concept, but i can see it in production form. instead of making a catfish face, this actually looks mean and maybe even luxurious.
and i wouldn't be so put off by it. i think new genesis sedan does a decent job at making a bold grill. but it's too audi like. again, big bold grill can be done, but it's so hard to pull it off. even the spindle grill has hits and misses.

at least gen coupe is so friggin rare.

this? we will bee seeing this every friggin day.


i actually don't mind the Avalon's face. it's executed so much better than awful thing. but overall, i'm just not a big fan of big wide open mouth grill in general.

amphipri0n

It would have been more interesting and cohesive to see Toyota apply the Avalon's split lower trapezoid grill and rear-end design to the Camry instead of recycling the Lexus spindle grill. Yes, the trend did start with Audi, and the Avalon's grill looks more Audi than Lexus, but why not continue that formula in the Camry?

Lexus sales show that people overwhelmingly liked the new face of their cars, and it makes sense that Toyota would adopt something that's proven to sell. However, Lexus' success has been in being able to distinguish itself with design and feature set which is why I think overall this type of borrowing is an eventual minus for the brand.

Additionally, the Camry can now be optioned with Adaptive Cruise, Lane Departure, Pre-collision, RCTA, etc. which are not even available in some current-generation Lexus models.

hlee12

i agree. they should've split the grill like avalon.

if you make camry's grill all mesh and just remove the camry badge it will look no doubt look like a lexus. just much uglier version

RNM GS3

Still absolutely Crazy to me that Toyota did this.
Lexus spent the last year promoting their new signature face of all their cars and in one second Toyota just ruined all that identity that Lexus had been able to generate.

LexFather

Some of you guys are really stretching it. You guys said Lexus looks like audi grill now it's Camry. No one has even seen the car in person yet.

Omg red car and black grill = the same

And omg the constant baggage of Hyundai/Kia in ever bloody thread is OLD!!!

spwolf

cant win with some people, it is either ugly or it steals lexus indentity

then they will wonder how come it ia still #1 in sales.

best part of this rather major change is that you will get camry people with their lease ending after 3 years, to upgrade since it is such major change.

JDR76

I quite like it. I'm not overjoyed by the plastic treatment on the C pillar, but will reserve final judgment until I see it in person.

Motor

Vh_Supra26

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Not everyone is going to like the styling. Toyota can't make everyone happy. But for the most part people like it or don't mind the refresh.

AutoBlog's poll shows only about 23.5% of people don't like the new styling.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/16/2...new-york-2014/