Should Hyundai make a Luxury Division
#46
Lexus Fanatic
You are assuming a causality situation that you cannot prove, and have no basis from which to assume other than your own biases.. Just because the Equus doesn't sell "well" and doesn't have a lot of colors doesn't mean it doesn't sell well BECAUSE it doesn't have a lot of colors.
#47
Lexus Champion
You are assuming a causality situation that you cannot prove, and have no basis from which to assume other than your own biases.. Just because the Equus doesn't sell "well" and doesn't have a lot of colors doesn't mean it doesn't sell well BECAUSE it doesn't have a lot of colors.
#48
It's nothing special about me, or simply because I'm speaking it. Doesn't take much sense to put two and two together. Heck, a grade-school kid can figure that out. 2+2=4 is not opinion, but simple fact. One does not have to be Einstein to understand that.
I didn't "Make up my Mind" on anything. The market itself spoke, with its $$$$$. That's not me....that's simply people ignoring the car.
I didn't "Make up my Mind" on anything. The market itself spoke, with its $$$$$. That's not me....that's simply people ignoring the car.
some posters provided factual proof that those colors equus have dominates the market. and i argued that jaguar with 15 colors(with various different tones including green lol) aren't leading in sales. as a matter of fact, they outsold equus by whopping 97 units. whoo d friggin do.
so in your la la land having green, gold, purple, dark poopy brown, lighter poopy brown may help hyundai to sell more equus, but obviously hyundai isn't listening to your grand la la land logic. shame on them for only providing 5 colors. they are awful at selling cars. i bet adding 4 more colors would double their sales. so most definitely equus would outsell XJ. i mean come on. it's 9 colors.
#49
i'm not sure where you are going with this. Phaeton sold very poorly. i don't know how much they sold phaetons, but i bet it's not much more equus.
and of course, anybody can release expensive vehicles. i'm sure subaru can launch all new super duper 120k S class beater. problems is nobody's gonna buy it maybe except [a few]...
Last edited by bitkahuna; 01-27-14 at 08:08 PM. Reason: remove stereotyping
#50
Lead Lap
You are assuming a causality situation that you cannot prove, and have no basis from which to assume other than your own biases.. Just because the Equus doesn't sell "well" and doesn't have a lot of colors doesn't mean it doesn't sell well BECAUSE it doesn't have a lot of colors.
It's also funny if you look at the newest Mercedes S-class; it's available in 5 colors with various shades- Silver, white, black, green, and blue.
#51
I think Hyundai (5% US market share) would be happy for the time-being to establish itself on equal grounds with Toyota, Honda and Nissan (15%, 10%, 8% respectively). If (or when) they can sell their equivalent cars for the same price as those brands, then maybe they'll be ready to launch a luxury brand.
#52
Lexus Fanatic
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hlee - enough with the stereotyping even if you have 'data' claims to back up your case. it's inflammatory.
#53
I always thought they were trying to position Hyundai itself as the "premium luxury" brand above Kia.
Hyundai:Kia::Acura:Honda
It's "smart premium" or whatever that niche market is between "regular" economy cars and "luxury" brands.
Hyundai:Kia::Acura:Honda
It's "smart premium" or whatever that niche market is between "regular" economy cars and "luxury" brands.
#54
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by hlee
so in your la la land having green, gold, purple, dark poopy brown, lighter poopy brown may help hyundai to sell more equus,
but obviously hyundai isn't listening to your grand la la land logic.
shame on them for only providing 5 colors.
they are awful at selling cars.
i bet adding 4 more colors would double their sales.
but so most definitely equus would outsell XJ. i mean come on. it's 9 colors.
#56
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by hlee12
.... and i argued that jaguar with 15 colors(with various different tones including green lol) .....
Originally Posted by chikoo
A Jaguar in British Racing Green is a must. no exception.
#57
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#58
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#59
LOL. There's a difference between La-La-land and simple commmon sense. I'm generally sticking with the latter.
No they aren't. And the Equus doesn't sell. Case closed.
Only with the Equus. Just about everything else they offer in the American market is doing quite well.......especially the Sonata and Elantra. (And those othe products aren't hamstrung with the same color restrictions).
Apples and oranges. The Equus not only substantially undercuts the XJ (which I have also reviewed) in price, but also appeals to a somewhat different type of car-buying crowd. Jag XJ buyers are more likely to consider the Audi A8, BMW 7-series, and Mercedes S-class as the primary competitiors. The Equus, in comparision, despite the price difference, is more along the lines of the Lexus LS460.
No they aren't. And the Equus doesn't sell. Case closed.
Only with the Equus. Just about everything else they offer in the American market is doing quite well.......especially the Sonata and Elantra. (And those othe products aren't hamstrung with the same color restrictions).
Apples and oranges. The Equus not only substantially undercuts the XJ (which I have also reviewed) in price, but also appeals to a somewhat different type of car-buying crowd. Jag XJ buyers are more likely to consider the Audi A8, BMW 7-series, and Mercedes S-class as the primary competitiors. The Equus, in comparision, despite the price difference, is more along the lines of the Lexus LS460.
you are implying
1. hyundai has no common sense
2. many posters here have no common sense
and no you are wrong. Azera isn't selling well either. veloster is lackluster. genesis & coupe are so-so.
equus is selling relatively well. i mean it's only selling less than 100 units than XJ which is premiere flagship sedan with 15 colors.
are you implying ls460 doesn't belong in those list?
#60
that dude is the one who ignores other posters argument vehemently from the start. and yes, that's being headstrong because he isn't listening.
and if you are going to debate, then please feel free to chime in. or just go talk lexus in other posts.
what is your OPINION on equus low sales figure?
do you think having only 5 colors is a the reason for poor sale?