Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

2015 Genesis Sedan Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-04-13, 07:52 AM
  #346  
Lexuslvr91
Lead Lap
 
Lexuslvr91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexFather
E-class ain't sporty unless its an AMG. I'll believe it when I see it as the current R-spec isn't sporty but has a lovely big V-8 engine.
Compared to the standard sedans like 535i, CTS and A6 it has about the same performance and even beat out the 5-Series at least according to CarandDrivers 4 way test.
Lexuslvr91 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 10:40 AM
  #347  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yowps3
Yes but here Mercedes no longer offers the E550. And the only V8 powered 5 series you can buy is the ///M

Most people drive the 528i or the diesel 5 series.
Oh well that's a shame. MBZ is dropping the TT V8 from the E550 in a year or two for a new TT V6. So we'll understand.
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 11:06 AM
  #348  
silversprucesc3
Lexus Champion
 
silversprucesc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Question regarding HP......

The 5.0 v8 offered by Hyundai puts out 429 hp at the crank however the 0-60 times and driving feeling seems sluggish. Is this a product of gearing or electronics?
I drove the Rspec. It is fast but not 429hp quick.
In comparison to my BMW's or when i drive Mercedes. They feel fast even when hp is in the 300 range.
Im not knocking the Genesis as I already own a Genesis coupe and will probably purchase the sedan but just curious why the "seat of your pants test" differs so much?

Last edited by silversprucesc3; 12-04-13 at 11:12 AM.
silversprucesc3 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 12:15 PM
  #349  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Originally Posted by yowps3
Who cares how it drives.




Originally Posted by yowps3
As far as I know it is RWD with a V8 engine. A very nice combination.

Lexus, BMW, Mercedes have all b*itched out by not offering a V8

I would easily choose this over a POS 528i
Heck I would even choose the V8 Genesis over the GS350

^^ And that Nissan above is called the Maxima here.
While I love V-8s, lets not focus on them since they make less than 5% of sales. With the Benz and Caddy turbo V-6s making V-8 power consumers will ultimately decide if they miss them or not. The M56 and Genesis have offered V-8s and they sell pretty poor with giant discounts. So the drive is rather important.

Funny how Lexus gets bashed for not being sporty but now it doesn't matter since they are sportiest in some cases. Gotta love the internetz

I think two of you need to go here.

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/
 
Old 12-04-13, 12:32 PM
  #350  
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
iTrader: (15)
 
tmf2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 21,942
Received 63 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by silversprucesc3
This is the real deal. Videos and pics all over the net. All these stupid photos of comparisons to Nissans etc. detract from the topic on hand.
Cant wait to see the R-spec.
Why in gods name would this be compared to a Nissan..... Not even close...
tmf2004 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 04:20 PM
  #351  
Lexuslvr91
Lead Lap
 
Lexuslvr91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexFather




While I love V-8s, lets not focus on them since they make less than 5% of sales. With the Benz and Caddy turbo V-6s making V-8 power consumers will ultimately decide if they miss them or not. The M56 and Genesis have offered V-8s and they sell pretty poor with giant discounts. So the drive is rather important.

Funny how Lexus gets bashed for not being sporty but now it doesn't matter since they are sportiest in some cases. Gotta love the internetz

I think two of you need to go here.

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/
The V8s make up around 30% for the Genesis. The E400 is not making V8 power it is only listed at 329 hp/354 lb-ft compared to the Genesis's 333 hp(less torque however at 291 lb-ft) for its V6.

The 5.0 V8 in the Genesis isn't being sold with giant discounts please provide evidence to suggest otherwise.

First drives of the 2015 Genesis suggest that the ride is much better than the previous gen. At the track however some note that there is more body roll than acceptable however the cars were in fact prototypes and were KDM spec with softer suspension settings than what we will get here in the states.

Last edited by Lexuslvr91; 12-04-13 at 04:25 PM.
Lexuslvr91 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 04:26 PM
  #352  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Although a nice upscale interior (I wouldn't call it premium or luxury), it leaves me cold and somewhat cookie cutter - fan of the blue backlit buttons however
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 06:19 PM
  #353  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,259
Received 70 Likes on 52 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Although a nice upscale interior (I wouldn't call it premium or luxury), it leaves me cold and somewhat cookie cutter - fan of the blue backlit buttons however
Interior is a horrendous knockoff of the 5 Series interior - look at the steering wheel controls, center stack layout, buttons, ***** etc.



RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 06:20 PM
  #354  
Mr. Burns
Lexus Champion
 
Mr. Burns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canuckistan
Posts: 1,874
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Looks like a Chinese knockoff of a BMW.
Mr. Burns is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 06:26 PM
  #355  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,259
Received 70 Likes on 52 Posts
Default

Here is a vid - not feeling this car.

RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 06:32 PM
  #356  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Forum Moderator
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,310
Received 126 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

lol I like it a bit more in Black and Blue than any other colors I've seen thus far
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 07:08 PM
  #357  
pman6
Racer
 
pman6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: CALIFORNIA
Posts: 1,925
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

it's an audinfinitibmercexus.

When it's rolling down the road at a distance, you can't tell what it is.
pman6 is offline  
Old 12-04-13, 09:16 PM
  #358  
tmf2004
5% Club. Killing it!!!
iTrader: (15)
 
tmf2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 21,942
Received 63 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
lol I like it a bit more in Black and Blue than any other colors I've seen thus far
not white with tinted windows lol??
tmf2004 is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 04:47 AM
  #359  
IS350jet
Pole Position
 
IS350jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Coral Springs, Fl
Posts: 2,882
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Interior is a horrendous knockoff of the 5 Series interior - look at the steering wheel controls, center stack layout, buttons, ***** etc.
I see nothing similar at all, except maybe, the colors.
IS350jet is offline  
Old 12-05-13, 04:49 AM
  #360  
IS350jet
Pole Position
 
IS350jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Coral Springs, Fl
Posts: 2,882
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by silversprucesc3
Question regarding HP......

The 5.0 v8 offered by Hyundai puts out 429 hp at the crank however the 0-60 times and driving feeling seems sluggish. Is this a product of gearing or electronics?
I drove the Rspec. It is fast but not 429hp quick.
In comparison to my BMW's or when i drive Mercedes. They feel fast even when hp is in the 300 range.
Im not knocking the Genesis as I already own a Genesis coupe and will probably purchase the sedan but just curious why the "seat of your pants test" differs so much?
Yes, that's been noted in the press, also. It's throttle programming, that's all. Hyundai needs to make it a little more aggressive.
IS350jet is offline  


Quick Reply: 2015 Genesis Sedan Thread



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:15 AM.