Pulled the trigger on a new...*gasp* Nissan LEAF
#31
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And yes, I'd get another one in a heartbeat if it was at the same price point!
There are still many advantages for EVs including 1) minimal maintenance 2) instaneous torque 3) HOV lane usage and 4) not reliant on gas prices, but no one has figured out that magic formula for a decently priced and designed car for the average person.
#32
Lexus Fanatic
If a Leaf2 could do 200 miles, we wouldnt need to go to the dealer at all!
And yes, I'd get another one in a heartbeat if it was at the same price point!
There are still many advantages for EVs including 1) minimal maintenance 2) instaneous torque 3) HOV lane usage and 4) not reliant on gas prices, but no one has figured out that magic formula for a decently priced and designed car for the average person.
And yes, I'd get another one in a heartbeat if it was at the same price point!
There are still many advantages for EVs including 1) minimal maintenance 2) instaneous torque 3) HOV lane usage and 4) not reliant on gas prices, but no one has figured out that magic formula for a decently priced and designed car for the average person.
#33
Lexus Fanatic
Alternate-fuel vehicles often qualify for big tax credits and HOV priviledges. During rush hours in large cities, the HOV lanes can dramatically affect commuting times. All-electric vehicles also do not need oil changes, cooling-system service, anti-freeze, transmission service, spark plugs, emission inspections, filter changes, or some of the other services that conventional gas vehicles do.
#34
Lexus Fanatic
Alternate-fuel vehicles often qualify for big tax credits and HOV priviledges. During rush hours in large cities, the HOV lanes can dramatically affect commuting times. All-electric vehicles also do not need oil changes, cooling-system service, anti-freeze, transmission service, spark plugs, emission inspections, filter changes, or some of the other services that conventional gas vehicles do.
The cost to run a modern car during the warranty period is minimal.
#35
Lexus Fanatic
(yes, some unscrupulous people actually do that).
#36
Lexus Fanatic
If you saw the kind of rush-hour gridlock that a lot of drivers in the L.A./SoCal, D.C. Metro, and Atlanta areas have to routinely deal with, you'd see how important HOV use is without having to have extra people in the car (or illegally putting dummies/mannequins in the seats to try and fool police and cameras) is.
(yes, some unscrupulous people actually do that).
(yes, some unscrupulous people actually do that).
#37
Lexus Fanatic
(I assume you are referring to Lexus CT you once had...where your screen-name presumingly came from)
#39
Lexus Fanatic
Well, the busiest highway in NA is not HOV'd. Also, HOV are good but when they end you hit traffic. They need to run the whole network to be more effective
#40
Lexus Fanatic
OK, that part I'll agree with. (and you're right.....oddly, that road is not HOV'ed). One cannot empty a gallon-jug all at once through a small neck.....same effect with traffic
#41
Lexus Fanatic
I have driven D.C. highways many times. Haven't been there for a while but I think the centre lanes reverse during rush hour, is that correct?
#42
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They were about 2k apart in price, after subsidies and rebates. Things that the Leaf excels in over the civic include city driving, hov lane access, lower NVH, minimal maintenance, and being immune to fuel price fluctuations (which happens a lot in CA). The Civic is great for long distances and handle/carry much more load. Other than that, its ur standard compact ICE, has regular maintenance requirements, and is at the mercy of OPEC. Different strokes for dofferent folks imho, since the leaf is a pure commuter car, while the Civic can serve several purposes. I don't regret getting the Leaf (my wife still lves it). I am disappointed that Nissan has sat on its laurels not updating the Leaf though. We'll probably buy another EV in the nott too distant future, when battery tech catches up.
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#44
Lexus Test Driver
If a Leaf2 could do 200 miles, we wouldnt need to go to the dealer at all!
And yes, I'd get another one in a heartbeat if it was at the same price point!
There are still many advantages for EVs including 1) minimal maintenance 2) instaneous torque 3) HOV lane usage and 4) not reliant on gas prices, but no one has figured out that magic formula for a decently priced and designed car for the average person.
And yes, I'd get another one in a heartbeat if it was at the same price point!
There are still many advantages for EVs including 1) minimal maintenance 2) instaneous torque 3) HOV lane usage and 4) not reliant on gas prices, but no one has figured out that magic formula for a decently priced and designed car for the average person.
#45
^ I think the technology exists today for a 300 mile range electric car, Tesla makes one. Now to be able to get that down to an 18k Honda Civic pricepoint isn't going to happen IMO. In fact, due to the horrid sales of the Nissan Leaf, I doubt any car maker is going to even build another cheap electric car. No demand plus they can't make any money on it means electric cars will remain a novetly for the well to do in their Tesla for the forseeable future IMO.