PhilipMSPT

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This has been proposed for motorcycles, which due to its size and weight, sometimes cannot trigger traffic light sensors. I've been stuck on my motorcycle at an intersection before for several minutes, and I've run the red after waiting for more than two minutes. Another issue is when needing to turn left with a red left-turn signal, and the opposing traffic signal has run through two cycles.

From the point of view of a motorcyclist or bicyclist (who is likely to experience the same problem), many traffic-activate lights are ineffective and will almost never change for a road user on two wheels. Consider my case of entering a left-turn lane at a controlled intersection, waiting through two light cycles without a change in his or her red arrow. Unless a car happens to pull up behind me, that light is never going to go green.

In these instances, I don't deserve to get a ticket for running the red.


But what about cars?

What should the parameters be?

Should you wait a minute? Two minutes? No other traffic? No pedestrians?

What if there are traffic light sensors; must a car wait then no matter what the time limit?

Does it matter if it's a small town or a big city? Urban areas vs. rural roads?

Should there be a difference between private versus commercial vehicles?



DISCUSS.

Brian@Vossen

What would help to me is more round abouts and less lights. I know its not feasible at every interesection but it would keep traffic flowing at larger ones.



Maybe we need updated lights and sensors that turn them into 4 way stops (all red) when there isn't traffic.

Allen K

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That assumes people in the US can figure out how to use roundabouts. There is a large one near my workplace and people when you have 1 person that can't work it and everything comes to a stop. Old Florida people and roundabouts scare me

mmarshall

During times of low-traffic (say, between 10 PM and 5 AM), many intersections, IMO, don't need steady red or green lights.....they could do with simple yellow flashers (or yellow/red flashers), where you slow down or stop, check for side traffic, and if clear, simply go through or turn without having to waste time and gasoline waiting for a green. But many localities refuse to reprogram the lights to do so....why, I have no idea.

bagwell

LOL!!! my thoughts exactly!!! US drivers are pretty stupid as a whole. Need to have more frequent and stringent driving tests!!!

My0gr81

This. I used to live in a city that had numerous traffic circles and most people didn't know how to use them. Created more backlogged traffic than helped the flow. They eventually, over the course of 15 years, got rid of them and where they couldn't added traffic lights at each entry and exit points. Essentially making what should be a single light intersection to be a 2 lights one.

TangoRed

I would love this rule to go into effect, but I know for a fact that it would turn every intersection into a free for all where people would pull out in front of others. When the cop would ask would happen, I'm sure said person would say "I didn't see the other car coming-I had been waiting here for 2 minutes and didn't see anyone."

GS3Tek

iTrader: (8)

Look forward-look left-look right-look behind you.

No other cars around, no cops, AND no traffic cam..........use your discretion

Besides, how often does this come up?

We don't need politicians, flying in their jet, staying at exp. hotels, wasting more $$$ to propose another bill

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

I admit I run the red arrows a lot when it's a road with really good visibility

Whitigir

Calling Officer !!!!!!!!!

Anyways, People have enough Accidents without running a red light.

Imagine the Possibility of Accidents when people do run on a red light, good visibility or not, sometime you mind can deceive you !!

Fly4u

While an extension of good driver judgement to permit valid red-light movement would be refreshing, most rules of the road are biased to the least common denominator - for good reason. The potential mayhem at intersections IMHO mitigates against a relaxation of the rule. I'd rather see development of "smarter" traffic lights and/or a more liberalized off-peak policy of flashing amber or simple mandatory 4-way stop.

Squirrelz

No, that's a stupid solution to the problem. Fix the red lights, don't legalize running red lights....

Coconut

I understand the frustration on motorcycle riders but legalizing running a red light is NOT the solution. People WILL abuse it and more harm than good will come from it.

The correct course of action would be to update the sensors to account for lighter vehicles (motorcycles).

speedflex

THIS! I love roud-abouts. Efficient and effective ways of managing traffic flow. It would take time and there would be major growing pains for Americans to learn how to use them though. But I don't feel that it should ever be legal to run a red light no matter what because the conditions which signal all clear is left up to individual driver judgement... I don't feel confident in that. Also, too many would simply exploit the rule.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

this... you know where i live. roundabouts are good but people need to know how to use them correctly. otherwise it's a timebomb for accidents, which is proven over and over again...

i agree, i simply don't like the idea of running redlights, even for motorcyclists. it should be all about how sensors can be made better. if cars today can "see" if there are cars at your blind spots, keeping you in the lane, monitoring what's ahead and warn you? these light sensors can be made better