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Old 05-14-11, 02:27 PM   #1
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Default 2011 Toyota Highlander Hybrid gets CR best in class award, Explorer flops.

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The 2011 Highlander Hybrid received a Recommended rating and an "89" overall score, higher than any other SUV reviewed, including the Touareg TDI and Ford Explorer in the same June edition.

Midsized SUVs, Consumer Reports
Taken from Priuschat.... Touareg ended at 4th best and Ford Explorer ended 17th out of 18 vehicles!

2011 HH gets amazing 28mpg combined, 0-60 in 7.4s/7.1s and 60-0 in 120ft, all awesome figures for larger 7 seater SUV.

Ford got really poor review for its engine and nvh.
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Great job Toyota
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Old 05-14-11, 02:59 PM   #3
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Excellent mileage for a 4800 lb SUV.

The Ford Flex is ranked right behind the Highlander Hybrid way ahead of the new Explorer.
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Compare the prices, though. The Highlander Hybrid and VW Diesel versions that CR tested run 8-10K more than the tested Explorer. Sure, they get better mileage, but that price difference can buy a LOT of gas for the Explorer. And diesel fuel, of course, has gone up in price with gasoline.

Don't get me wrong....I'm not an Explorer fan-boy, or necessarily trying to defend its flaws. I reviewed the new Explorer last winter, and, like with all vehicles, wrote up both Plusses and Minuses. But I think you have to compare apples and oranges....a conventional gas V6's fuel-mileage, in most cases, is simply not going to compare with an equivalant diesel or hybrid.

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For additional info. The As Tested price of the 3 SUV's in CR was:

$39.2k Explorer
$47.2 Highlander
$49.5k Toureg
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^Factor in the rate of depreciation and total annual operating costs for the Highlander hybrid are competitive with any mid-sized SUV (especially American SUVs and VW SUVs). Purchase price alone doesn't tell the whole story in this case.
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Compare the prices, though. The Highlander Hybrid and VW Diesel versions that CR tested run 8-10K more than the tested Explorer. Sure, they get better mileage, but that price difference can buy a LOT of gas for the Explorer. And diesel fuel, of course, has gone up in price with gasoline.

Don't get me wrong....I'm not an Explorer fan-boy, or necessarily trying to defend its flaws. I reviewed the new Explorer last winter, and, like with all vehicles, wrote up both Plusses and Minuses. But I think you have to compare apples and oranges....a conventional gas V6's fuel-mileage, in most cases, is simply not going to compare with an equivalant diesel or hybrid.
or you can get 28k Highlander too...

I am sure they used the pricing as well, which makes HH win even more telling how good vehicle it is.
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or you can get 28k Highlander too...

I am sure they used the pricing as well, which makes HH win even more telling how good vehicle it is.
No question the 28K Highlander is also a good vehicle, and the Highlander, to its credit, does not seem to have suffered the quality and fit/finish drop that some other recent Toyota products have. But then, again, the 28K Highlander's mileage is several MPG's short of its Hybrid-cousin....and much closer to the Explorer's. And the base Highlander offers something the base Explorer doesn't...a four-cylinder and 2WD, for even better gas mileage. But not many people want 2WD SUVs.

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No question the 28K Highlander is also a good vehicle, and the Highlander, to its credit, does not seem to have suffered the quality and fit/finish drop that some other recent Toyota products have. But then, again, the 28K Highlander's mileage is several MPG's short of its Hybrid-cousin....and much closer to the Explorer's. And the base Highlander offers something the base Explorer doesn't...a four-cylinder and 2WD, for even better gas mileage. But not many people want 2WD SUVs.
The 2.0 EcoBoost with FWD will be offered on the Explorer. Just not initially
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No question the 28K Highlander is also a good vehicle, and the Highlander, to its credit, does not seem to have suffered the quality and fit/finish drop that some other recent Toyota products have. But then, again, the 28K Highlander's mileage is several MPG's short of its Hybrid-cousin....and much closer to the Explorer's. And the base Highlander offers something the base Explorer doesn't...a four-cylinder and 2WD, for even better gas mileage. But not many people want 2WD SUVs.
Explorer did not end up 17th out of 18 because it doesnt have MPG of winner Highlander Hybrid... I would guess at least 15 other cars in front are also not Hybrids and they still managed to beat Explorer.
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In CR's rankings of mid sized SUV's the top 5 in order are: Highlander Hybrid (89), Flex Ecoboost (85), Acura MDX (85), Toureg TDI (82), Kia Sorrento (82).

The Highlander V6 is ranked #6 (81). Not too much of a spread between the top models.
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I wonder if Ford is stretching their use of that single platform a bit far. I was surprised that the 3.5 Ecoboost was not available in the Explorer. I suspect they are trying to hold down the price compared to the competition.
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Dang the Highlander has gotten expensive.
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Dang the Highlander has gotten expensive.
yep... still at least 15k less than RX450h though.

I really like what they did with the facelift, and now with the engine update...
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RX 450h starts at 43k, can hit 60k loaded. Sorry but 48k for a Highlander is too much. That said I think it looks superb inside and out and I'm glad its getting kudos for its merits. Seems like a great SUV to me.
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