Infiniti stuggles in Europe, names new Marketing Expert
#16
Infiniti is still very new to western Europe and sales are up 91% from the previous year. There's no "struggling" going on here besides what one would expect for a new luxury brand launching in a very old and entrenched luxury market.
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Now if they can keep expanding at a 91% growth rate year over year they will be fine in a couple of years.
#18
Lexus Champion
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Keep in mind that I'm an American who happens to live and work here. Most Europeans can't understand why we need to drive around in oversized, overpowered and inefficient cars. A clash of different cultures.
Infiniti products do poorly here mainly because of thin dealer networks, poor gas mileage, a small unbalanced lineup with poor practicality and the fact that the brand carries no cache here. When the average European goes shopping for a premium brand they expect the brand to stand for something. Infiniti doesn't have an "image" to begin with in Europe. So why should someone drop a lot of money on a car that is fast and fully loaded, but literally lacks an identity (in terms of branding)?
#19
Lexus Champion
Infiniti products do poorly here mainly because of thin dealer networks, poor gas mileage, a small unbalanced lineup with poor practicality and the fact that the brand carries no cache here. When the average European goes shopping for a premium brand they expect the brand to stand for something. Infiniti doesn't have an "image" to begin with in Europe. So why should someone drop a lot of money on a car that is fast and fully loaded, but literally lacks an identity (in terms of branding)?
#20
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
When I was in paris, I saw a bunch of Infiniti FX, but it was the only Infiniti I saw. Like I said, I believe they are some sort of fleet vehicle, because most of the ones that I was were at the airport parking lot. I have no idea if they were diesels.
I saw very very few Japanese and Korean vehicles. I think I only saw one Honda and one Nissan. Almost all of the Toyotas that I saw were Priiiiiii, and only Lexiiiii I saw were hybrids - RX and LS. I saw like 4 or 5 LS600h in one day - you don't see that many in NYC in a month. I think the CT-h should do well in Europe.
And like someone else pointed out, most other cars over there are tinny diesel junk. The air quality in the city and on the highways is terrible, the diesel stench is everywhere. They still have a bunch of old tech diesels that aren't clean like the bluetecs that we have in USA.
I saw very very few Japanese and Korean vehicles. I think I only saw one Honda and one Nissan. Almost all of the Toyotas that I saw were Priiiiiii, and only Lexiiiii I saw were hybrids - RX and LS. I saw like 4 or 5 LS600h in one day - you don't see that many in NYC in a month. I think the CT-h should do well in Europe.
And like someone else pointed out, most other cars over there are tinny diesel junk. The air quality in the city and on the highways is terrible, the diesel stench is everywhere. They still have a bunch of old tech diesels that aren't clean like the bluetecs that we have in USA.
#21
Lexus Champion
Same error as Lexus; no small engines and no stripped models. That's how you get your sales if numbers are your priority.
But I think they should have launched in Japan first and then went to Europe. I know they all wanna go to there because that's where the money is spent on luxury vehicles besides US and China but I think people are more traditional in premium car purchases over there because of great dominance of domestic luxury and that's a very hard thing to crack.
But I think they should have launched in Japan first and then went to Europe. I know they all wanna go to there because that's where the money is spent on luxury vehicles besides US and China but I think people are more traditional in premium car purchases over there because of great dominance of domestic luxury and that's a very hard thing to crack.
Anyways, as mentioned by others, it's also important to know that Infiniti is a relatively newcomer here. Lexus is facing a few difficulties in Europe but they got to a good level of recognition over time.
Maybe Infiniti just needs more time as well.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post