Lexus U.S. dealer meeting notes - WSJ
#91
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The ES continues to sell well so don't expect anything drastic. We all saw how that worked for the TL
#92
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Ii've heard nothing on the ES but I expect it will also include some new intuitive tech as standard with the Lexus Enform, maybe it gains remote touch and a hybrid option. Not sure will it get AWD as an option.
The ES continues to sell well so don't expect anything drastic. We all saw how that worked for the TL
The ES continues to sell well so don't expect anything drastic. We all saw how that worked for the TL
#93
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It's about time for the ES to get a hybrid variant. Five generations later and no hybrid yet. Even the Camry (ES cousin) has a hybrid. Lexus could make either:
ES 250h (four cylinder hybrid) or ES 450h (six cylinder hybrid)
ES 250h (four cylinder hybrid) or ES 450h (six cylinder hybrid)
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#96
The Camry Hybrid feels plenty fast, so an ES250h shouldn't be too bad either. For those who only want to travel in comfort an ES250h should be more than adequate already, although once again an upgrade to the more efficient 2.5L should be in order.
#97
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I doubt either of those. I'm betting it will be the return of the of the ES 300 but with an "h" at the end if anything. 2.5L w/Hybrid 4 cylinder.
#100
I'm 34 years old, but I feel like an old man since I think the style (inside and out) of the first gen GS was the best of the bunch.
I would love to see Lexus return to a styling direction simillar to the curves on those first gen GS's and SC's.
For me, the problem with the 3rd gen GS was that it didn't have anything exciting. The first GS had the style. The second had the power, looks, and cool green guages (along with the Mark Levinson audio).
The third generation looks good (not "special" as its predecessors), and aside from the hybrid option didn't have any cool draws to out. I think a small thing Lexus could have done was to offer more interior color/wood choices.
I'm hoping the next GS brings back that "special" vibe. Maybe an LF-A inspired guage layout?
I would love to see Lexus return to a styling direction simillar to the curves on those first gen GS's and SC's.
For me, the problem with the 3rd gen GS was that it didn't have anything exciting. The first GS had the style. The second had the power, looks, and cool green guages (along with the Mark Levinson audio).
The third generation looks good (not "special" as its predecessors), and aside from the hybrid option didn't have any cool draws to out. I think a small thing Lexus could have done was to offer more interior color/wood choices.
I'm hoping the next GS brings back that "special" vibe. Maybe an LF-A inspired guage layout?
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Enough with these vague statements. They are hype with no specific descriptions. I would believe these descriptions more if they were more specific, ie better build quality, use of certain materials, better proportioned design, etc. etc. But so far it's just "This car is gorgeous. That car is amazing." Waste of time imo. Not really sure why these "sources" can't describe the car just a little bit besides hugely vague descriptors.
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Enough with these vague statements. They are hype with no specific descriptions. I would believe these descriptions more if they were more specific, ie better build quality, use of certain materials, better proportioned design, etc. etc. But so far it's just "This car is gorgeous. That car is amazing." Waste of time imo. Not really sure why these "sources" can't describe the car just a little bit besides hugely vague descriptors.
#103
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I agree, I cannot and will not believe any of the "it's gorgeous and amazing" statements. Every car company promotes their product that way so it means absolutely nothing. No one is going to say, "our next model will look like a horse's ***." Seeing is believing and that's what I am waiting for.
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Enough with these vague statements. They are hype with no specific descriptions. I would believe these descriptions more if they were more specific, ie better build quality, use of certain materials, better proportioned design, etc. etc. But so far it's just "This car is gorgeous. That car is amazing." Waste of time imo. Not really sure why these "sources" can't describe the car just a little bit besides hugely vague descriptors.
Toyota is extremely secretive, and it's hard enough even getting this amount of information.
Anways, I would think it's common sense that "outstanding" implies better materials, better build quality, and a very nice proportioned design.
To clarify, I heard "outstanding" from a source as in outstanding overall. Again, that would imply better materials, design, and build quality.