GM mid sized sedans to only be offered with 4 cylinders
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GM mid sized sedans to only be offered with 4 cylinders
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/08/31/r...blog+(Autoblog)
Straight from the "No Surprise" department comes word from GMInsideNews that all of General Motors mid-size offerings will come equipped with four-cylinder engines as the only available powerplant.
GM has made it clear for the last few years that a large part of its future product strategy is to downsize its engine line-up in preparation for the new 2015 CAFE standards. The shift has already begun with the introduction of the 2011 Buick Regal, available with either a 182-horsepower direct injected 2.4-liter or a turbocharged 2.0-liter putting out 220 hp and 258 pound-feet of torque.
The next model to go all-four-banger will be the next generation Chevrolet Malibu, slated to arrive late next year and likely packing – to begin with – the same 2.4-liter four. A range of direct injected engines, both naturally aspirated and turbocharged, are in the works, so the General won't be hurting for options, but expect the V6 to stick around for GM's larger offerings, including the next Impala.
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This was to be expected considering looming CAFE regulations but it will be interesting to see if GM buyers warm up to only having 4 cylinders for mid sized sedans. GM 4 cylinders are not exactly known for being all that good and often get criticized for excessive noise, roughness, weak power, mediocre fuel economy, and poor reliability. I thought the Malibu was considered more full sized and unless they make the next one smaller and lighter, 4 cylinder only configurations may hurt it in comparisons/sales. We will see if Ford and Chrysler follow suit in only offering 4 cylinders in future mid sized cars.
As CAFE looms we will be seeing further downsizing in engine sizes/cylinder counts from other makes which may surprise many unaware buyers, it is already happening with some models. Where people are used to getting 6 cylinders now in many models, 4 cylinders will replace them and where people are used to 8 cylinders, they will be replaced with 6 cylinders, 10-12 cylinder engine options will most likely be replaced by 8 cylinders. Car companies will use turbo/supercharging and hybrids to try to make up for smaller engines lost power and to increase fuel economy but hopefully they will also heavily focus on weight reduction of future models to improve fuel economy.
Straight from the "No Surprise" department comes word from GMInsideNews that all of General Motors mid-size offerings will come equipped with four-cylinder engines as the only available powerplant.
GM has made it clear for the last few years that a large part of its future product strategy is to downsize its engine line-up in preparation for the new 2015 CAFE standards. The shift has already begun with the introduction of the 2011 Buick Regal, available with either a 182-horsepower direct injected 2.4-liter or a turbocharged 2.0-liter putting out 220 hp and 258 pound-feet of torque.
The next model to go all-four-banger will be the next generation Chevrolet Malibu, slated to arrive late next year and likely packing – to begin with – the same 2.4-liter four. A range of direct injected engines, both naturally aspirated and turbocharged, are in the works, so the General won't be hurting for options, but expect the V6 to stick around for GM's larger offerings, including the next Impala.
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This was to be expected considering looming CAFE regulations but it will be interesting to see if GM buyers warm up to only having 4 cylinders for mid sized sedans. GM 4 cylinders are not exactly known for being all that good and often get criticized for excessive noise, roughness, weak power, mediocre fuel economy, and poor reliability. I thought the Malibu was considered more full sized and unless they make the next one smaller and lighter, 4 cylinder only configurations may hurt it in comparisons/sales. We will see if Ford and Chrysler follow suit in only offering 4 cylinders in future mid sized cars.
As CAFE looms we will be seeing further downsizing in engine sizes/cylinder counts from other makes which may surprise many unaware buyers, it is already happening with some models. Where people are used to getting 6 cylinders now in many models, 4 cylinders will replace them and where people are used to 8 cylinders, they will be replaced with 6 cylinders, 10-12 cylinder engine options will most likely be replaced by 8 cylinders. Car companies will use turbo/supercharging and hybrids to try to make up for smaller engines lost power and to increase fuel economy but hopefully they will also heavily focus on weight reduction of future models to improve fuel economy.
Last edited by UDel; 08-31-10 at 05:07 PM.
#3
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yup, gm and others will have few options when the EPA 'gun' is at their heads.
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Unfortunately it is not just the big government 3 that are going to have to adhere to these standard but all manufactures. It is one of the reasons Hyundai is only offering 4 cylinders in the new Sonata. BMW has announced 4 cylinders will eventually replace the inline 6s and the M3 will drop the v8 for a FI inline 6 like the S4 dropped the v8 for FI 6 cylinder. It is rumored the next gen Lexus GS line will not offer a v8 anymore other then a high performance F version which is going to be extremely expensive.
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Unfortunately it is not just the big government 3 that are going to have to adhere to these standard but all manufactures. It is one of the reasons Hyundai is only offering 4 cylinders in the new Sonata. BMW has announced 4 cylinders will eventually replace the inline 6s and the M3 will drop the v8 for a FI inline 6 like the S4 dropped the v8 for FI 6 cylinder. It is rumored the next gen Lexus GS line will not offer a v8 anymore other then a high performance F version which is going to be extremely expensive.
#6
As long as the low-end torque is there (i.e. with turbos), shouldn't be a big deal that you're missing 2 cylinders. Well, GM's 4 cylinders are far from refined, so as long as they can make some improvements there.
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My H4 Subaru Outback is fine around town, so long as I wind it out and keep it spinning up in the torque curve. On the freeway, I leave plenty of room to come up to speed and just settle in and leave the cruise control set. When test driving Outbacks, I thought the H4 felt more spunky than the H6. I don't know what it was, but the 6 cylinder felt quite weak around town.
As far as GM's 4 cylinder sedan plans, I bought my LS because I wanted a V8 sedan before they become nearly extinct.
As far as GM's 4 cylinder sedan plans, I bought my LS because I wanted a V8 sedan before they become nearly extinct.
#10
2011 Hyundai Sonata Turbo: 22 city, 34 Hwy (272 HP)
2010 Hyundai Sonata V6: 19 city, 29 Hwy (249 HP)
2011 Chevy Malibu V6: 17 city, 26 Hwy (252 HP)
So I think that you mean turbo 4 cylinders will be more efficient than modern NA 6 cylinders.
#12
Not as smooth, but as evidenced by the larger Honda and Toyota 4 cylinder engines, they can still be quite smooth, quiet, and adequately isolated. Maybe GM should buy the Japanese powerplants for use in their own cars, rather than trying to take the rough edges off of their own 4 pot rock tumblers, though.
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A non sport oriented car the size of the Malibu or Regal packing 220hp and a healthy 258tq is plenty... especially if it comes at the benefit of better fuel economy.
I mean seriously... if the above cars can do 0-60 in, let's say, 6.8 seconds... does it really need to be any quicker?
I mean seriously... if the above cars can do 0-60 in, let's say, 6.8 seconds... does it really need to be any quicker?
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Not as smooth, but as evidenced by the larger Honda and Toyota 4 cylinder engines, they can still be quite smooth, quiet, and adequately isolated. Maybe GM should buy the Japanese powerplants for use in their own cars, rather than trying to take the rough edges off of their own 4 pot rock tumblers, though.