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Old 11-07-13, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
there are tons of turbo kits?

as to the convertible, of course... dont trust anything written in stupid media :-)
i meant along factory upgrades to come...definitely am aware of the aftermarket kits available
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Old 11-07-13, 09:34 AM
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I must say, I like how this convertable looks especially how the interior looks much more refined. Just hope it's the power of photoshopping that made it looked so much nicer.

That said, these wheels looks much nicer that the current wheels, though they still look wayyy too busy. To me, when it's soo busy it's confusing to see the simplistic beauty of the car.

This car really needs some interior refinement (kill the hard plastics, this is the year 2013 in a cut-throat competitive market - for crying out loud!) also some nicer wheels and there's a quite a bit or cries (requests) for some more power.



Come on Toyota, the hard part's done. The car is already built, simply refine the car to today's standards.
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Old 11-11-13, 03:32 PM
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Default Toyota announces GT86 CS-R3 rally car

Toyota announces GT86 CS-R3 rally car



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TOYOTA MOTORSPORT GmbH ANNOUNCES TMG GT86 CS-R3 RALLY CAR

Cologne, Germany - TOYOTA Motorsport GmbH (TMG) is proud to announce it will develop a GT86 R3 rally car as part of its customer motorsport programme.

The rear-wheel drive sports car will be converted to R3 specification and made available to private competitors, with delivery expected for the 2015 season.

The car, which will be known as the TMG GT86 CS-R3, will be built according to R3 regulations, meaning it will have a six-speed sequential gearbox, limited slip differential, modified engine, adapted brakes and other upgrades.

Drawing on the experience of developing the TMG GT86 CS-V3 race car for the Nürburgring-based VLN series, TMG engineers will modify the base car to the maximum level permitted within the regulations.

The TMG GT86 CS-R3 is targeted at private customers and is eligible for all FIA-sanctioned rallies, up to and including the World Rally Championship. Full specifications and pricing will be announced in the coming months.

Today's announcement strengthens TMG's commitment to customer motorsport and rallying, both of which represent key aspects of its long-term business strategy.

With a Yaris R1A already launched plus the ongoing development of a Global Race Engine, TMG is expanding and strengthening its knowledge of rallying and drawing on its proud history in the sport.

TMG's very existence is founded on rally, having begun life in Cologne in 1979 as Toyota Team Europe (TTE). Under Ove Andersson, the company went on to win four drivers' and three manufacturers' World Championships.

Nico Ehlert, Principal Engineer Customer Motorsport: "Rallying is in our blood at TMG so it is very exciting to announce that we will be expanding our rally operations. The GT86 CS-R3 promises to be a thrilling car on the rally stages; with rear-wheel drive we can expect some dramatic action which is sure to be entertaining for drivers and fans alike. Through our experience with the TMG GT86 Cup and the TMG GT86 CS-V3 race car we have built a solid infrastructure for customer motorsport over the past few years. We will draw on this to deliver a reliable, safe and high-performance car, plus all the required technical support, for our customers. We expect demand to be high so we are looking forward to seeing a lot of GT86 CS-R3 rally cars in action from the beginning of the 2015 season."
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/11/t...6-cs-r3-rally/
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Old 11-11-13, 07:03 PM
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so sad that they don't produce it to the public
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Old 11-11-13, 07:07 PM
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Modified engine…how much more horses
 
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Originally Posted by LexFather
Modified engine…how much more horses
It is actually still @ 200PS according to

http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...V3_Web_Res.pdf
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Originally Posted by Whitigir
It is actually still @ 200PS according to

http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/mot...V3_Web_Res.pdf
^ If it not 300hp , Forget it !
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Old 11-12-13, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ISF350
^ If it not 300hp , Forget it !
Yeah. I remember Honda Prelude was 20 years ago, and 200 HP. So disappointing of new technologies with still 200 HP 20 years later
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I just bought a BRZ over the weekend and love it.
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Old 11-12-13, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan@Autogeek
I just bought a BRZ over the weekend and love it.
Care to expound please!

We need like, more details of your driving impression, ergonomics, build quality etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by Bryan@Autogeek
I just bought a BRZ over the weekend and love it.
Nice pick up. No one disagree for what it is. The twin is amazing pure driver car.
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Default Subaru Cross Sport Design Concept = Subaru BRZ Wagon / Shooting Brake?


Subaru defines the concept as a combination of 'sport' and 'utility'. It's claimed to feature "easy seat access, a comfortable interior, and abundant luggage space".

The concept is 4300mm long and weighs just 1250kg, and is stated to display what Subaru thinks to be future direction for urban SUVs.

Details are few, but it's reputed to feature a horizontally opposed engine that transmits power through a CVT to the rear wheels.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51736
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Default Tokyo motor show 2013: Subaru Cross Sport Design concept

Cross Sport Design concept shown for the first time in Tokyo, revealing Subaru's perception of the future 'urban SUV' market

The Cross Sport features a flat-four engine, which drives the rear wheels through a constant-velocity transmission

The Subaru Cross Sport Design concept has been seen for the first time at the Tokyo motor show.

Subaru defines the concept as a combination of 'sport' and 'utility'. It's claimed to feature "easy seat access, a comfortable interior, and abundant luggage space".

The concept is 4300mm long and weighs just 1250kg, and is stated to display what Subaru thinks to be future direction for urban SUVs.

Details are few, but it's reputed to feature a horizontally opposed engine that transmits power through a CVT to the rear wheels.

The concept has been shown alongside the Levorg, Crossover 7 and Viziv Evolution models.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...design-concept
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Default Subaru Cross Sport Design Concept Looks Like a BRZ Outback Edition


What's the first thing that comes to your mind after looking at these first images of Subaru's Cross Sport Concept that is making its debut today at the Tokyo Motor Show?

If you want to know our thoughts, we found the concept looking like a BRZ with a shooting brake-style upper part and a tall-riding crossover lower part. That's just our imagination, though, as Subaru hasn't released full details on the study yet.

What the Japanese carmaker did tell us is that the study combines "SPORT" and "UTILITY" features offering plenty of luggage space and road clearance, with the concept measuring a compact 4.3 meters or about 169 inches in length.

For more information, we'll have to wait for the full release.
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/11/sub...ept-looks.html
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Scion FR-S Turbo Sedan Comes Into Focus
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...es_into_focus/
Subaru and Toyota planning further derivatives of their respective 86 and BRZ rear-drive coupes

So it’s no surprise the family will grow. Recent concepts have indicated at least a convertible and a possible shooting brake. But the big surprise will be under the hood.

First , Toyota unveiled the expected at the Geneva Motor Show: A convertible. Then Subaru showed a wagon BRZ concept in Tokyo. Now, the next piece of the puzzle is slowly coming into focus: an 86-based four-door sedan.

A source close to Toyota has divulged that Subaru’s Cross Sport provides telling hints of what the Toyota four-door will look like. “It’d be easy to bring the B-pillar forward, add a rear door and slant the rear roof section to create a viable sedan look,” said our source.

Bearing a development code of 734A, we’re told the 86 sedan measures 187 inches long, 70 inches wide, 55.1 inches high. It rides on a 108.2-inch wheelbase.

Making the car about the same size as Subaru’s current Legacy, the four-door will be 20.1 inches longer and 4 inches taller than the 86 overall, and its wheelbase 7.3 inches longer.

Given the 86 sedan’s extra size and weight, the stock coupe’s 200-hp 2.0-liter boxer engine would need beefing up. A source tells us that in place of the naturally aspirated 2.0-liter four-cylinder would be a combination that was initially said to be impossible for the 86.

Yes folks, a turbo. But not just any turbo. Toyota will insist on a 2.0-liter turbo-boxer being bolted to a revised version of its tried and proven hybrid system, pumping out around 300 hp.

In addition to a hybrid turbo powerplant, Toyota’s R&D department is currently testing in-wheel motors. Fitted at the front, they would make the four-door an all-wheel-drive sedan.

However, rather than a full-time AWD set-up, the idea would be to employ this in-wheel motor system at the front-end to act like Honda’s SH-AWD system. In other words, the system would only engage when rear-end traction is broken to quickly restore stability.

Of course, cost remains an important point for the R&D team. What will the market pay for expensive in-wheel motors and a hybrid-turbo powertrain-- more than $30,000 for the standard 2.0-liter turbo and upwards of $40,000 for the hybrid turbo AWD?

Our source suggests Toyota will test the waters first, by introducing a 2.0-liter turbo sedan by late 2016. Depending on its success, it could follow this up with an AWD hybrid powertrain – in either the same car or a Lexus model.
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