PEK

Hi,
Looked it up online but still confused of how to properly used it. Tried using it this weekend with 4inch white pad & porter cable. Saw some improvement but wasn't "WOW" improvement. I did small section with the PC speed of 2 then immediately wiped down. Then continued 1 more time in the same fashion. Here are the questions for the gurus:
- should I put some pressure while using PC?
-should I set a higher speed when using polish? I always set a low speed when using pc for wax just to avoid hologram effect
-should I leave it on a bit before wiping it down?

Appreciate any tricks & tips. TIA

zmcgovern4

iTrader: (2)

Menzerna 3 in 1 is an all-in-one product meaning it is a cleaner, polish, and sealant all in the same step. Depending on what results you need, you may use it differently to produce the results you are after.

If you need to maximize cut (defect removal), you're going to want to use this product on a polishing pad or even something more aggressive like a light cutting pad. You're going to want to use moderate pressure and a machine speed of 4-6. Make 3-6 passes as needed.

If you're simply looking to add a bit of clarity and gloss to the paint, but don't necessarily need to remove swirls and other defects, you could consider using it on a polishing pad or finishing pad with lighter pressure and a lower machine speed (around 3-4), while making 2-4 passes per section.

Hope that helps. Let me know if you've got any other questions.

-Zach

PEK

Thanks Zach, that's very informative. Does it need curing time between the pass?

zmcgovern4

iTrader: (2)

No, wipe off immediately after you're finished polishing the section.

PEK

Thanks Zach

LeX2K

I have some of this stuff and honestly I think it is pure crap. I used it once for a few minutes and concluded there is no point to ever use it again.

zmcgovern4

iTrader: (2)

It helps if you can elaborate as to why you disliked a product.

Thanks

-Zach

swoo350

I'm curious to see if anyone actually had good results out of this product. I don't expect it to work like the 2 step compound and finish combos but using this would possibly cut your detailing time down if you're looking to do a quick job?

UDel

I have never used this 3 in 1 and I am not sure how effective a product like that is really going to be in getting rid of swirls and also protecting especially if it uses carnauba but from the sounds of it you are not using the correct polishing method if you were trying to get rid of swirls, scratches, or any defects.

With a PC you need to apply pressure to get rid of swirls and for the polishes to properly break down, you can't just use the weight of the machine. My first time using a PC I did not use much if any pressure and the results were poor, it barely made a difference. Once I applied pressure it was night and day and did take away the swirls and hazing and finished down very well.

You need to use a higher speed when polishing 2 then just 2, I put it on 5 or 6 when polishing to get rid of swirls and scratches and for the polish to break down properly.

I would suggest just using a dedicated polish like Menzerna IP(or whatever the new version is), use a finishing polish if needed, properly wash the oils off and then use a dedicated sealant or wax for your protection. I am not exactly sure how effective a polish is that also has carnauba is going to be at removing swirls/scratches and it may give you issues with pads plus it is doubtful you can use the higher speeds in waxing your car effectively. Seems like this product is just going to hold you back from getting a good finish and providing solid protection.

PEK

Thanks UDel for your insight, will definitely give it a try again with your recommendation this weekend

zmcgovern4

iTrader: (2)

The purpose of these all-in-one type products is to do just that... save time.

The correction will certainly not be comparable to a 2 step correction process which begins with heavier cutting and then careful refining. The AIO will allow you to do some moderate/light correction while also applying protection in the same step.

These types of products are great for someone who is not after a nearly flawless finish, but still wants a car that is leaps and bounds better looking than most others on the road. You can also use an AIO as the 2nd step in a two-step correction process if you wish to save a little time when it comes to eliminating the application of a sealant or wax.

I haven't ever used this particular Menzerna 3in1 product, but the theory of AIOs is not new. Some other popular options are Griot's Garage BOSS Finishing Sealant, Blackfire Total Polish and Seal, Klasse All In One, and Meguiar's Paint Reconditioning Cream D151.

-Zach

LeX2K

Didn't do defect removal very well, left a haze or residue that is difficult to remove. Just a bad product I'll stick to a 2-3 stage process.

swoo350

I may possibly buy this AIO and test it out on my mom's Corolla or something lol. I will post results if I do.

zmcgovern4

iTrader: (2)

I would personally recommend Meguiar's D151 or Blackfire Total Polish and Seal as I have used both with excellent results.

Just to reiterate... you cannot expect the same results as using a true polish and especially not comparable to a 2-step correction process. These AIO products are simply meant for paint enhancement and time savings, but should not be regarded as a replacement for true correction when needed. Many people don't benefit from a true paint correction as they will not maintain the vehicle appropriately afterwards, so an AIO type product may be a great option to restore some clarity and gloss while not spending too much time striving for perfection that will be ruined with one trip through the car wash.

-Zach

PEK

Meant to update this product few weeks ago. After some advice from Zach & UDel, I tried it again with a higher speed & pressure. The result is day & night. I would give this product 10/10 on depth & clarity, 5/10 for removing fine scratches & swirls and 7/10 on the ease of product removal. Overall I'm satisfy with the Menzerna 3in1 for an amateur detailer since it's pretty much a 1 step process. If I want to completely remove fine scratches, I will need to spend more time with a 2 stepper (polish then wax, the real way).












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