Stage 1 paint
07-09-14, 03:35 PM
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Stage 1 paint
hey guys, I recently had my SC repainted after an accident and I was in a squeeze so I opted for stage 1 paint on my car.
I kind of regret it.
The paint looks good now but I'm already noticing some hazing on the hood and orange peel throughout. My question is this...could I wetsand the paint to bring out more of a shine? Or does stage 1 not allow that...
I kind of regret it.
The paint looks good now but I'm already noticing some hazing on the hood and orange peel throughout. My question is this...could I wetsand the paint to bring out more of a shine? Or does stage 1 not allow that...
07-10-14, 12:32 PM
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Single stage urethane can be buffed, there is no difference between it and urethane clear, both are urethanes, same chemically, one is transparent one is pigmented. The only time you CAN'T buff SS paint is if it's metallic or pearl w/o a clear over it (rare these days, but frequent in the past)
When urethane cures, the UV inhibitors migrate to the upper 5% of the paint, so you only want to buff it when it starts to dull, and not too deep or too often because well, when the UV layer is gone you'll be buffing a LOT more often...kind of what happens when you see headlights going continually dull every few months after buffing them out (they also have a UV layer from the factory).
Use as mild a polish as possible to get back the gloss, avoid a cutting compound if you can.and use a polymer sealant on it 2 to 3 times a year minimum.
Good luck
When urethane cures, the UV inhibitors migrate to the upper 5% of the paint, so you only want to buff it when it starts to dull, and not too deep or too often because well, when the UV layer is gone you'll be buffing a LOT more often...kind of what happens when you see headlights going continually dull every few months after buffing them out (they also have a UV layer from the factory).
Use as mild a polish as possible to get back the gloss, avoid a cutting compound if you can.and use a polymer sealant on it 2 to 3 times a year minimum.
Good luck
07-14-14, 01:41 AM
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Single stage urethane can be buffed, there is no difference between it and urethane clear, both are urethanes, same chemically, one is transparent one is pigmented. The only time you CAN'T buff SS paint is if it's metallic or pearl w/o a clear over it (rare these days, but frequent in the past)
When urethane cures, the UV inhibitors migrate to the upper 5% of the paint, so you only want to buff it when it starts to dull, and not too deep or too often because well, when the UV layer is gone you'll be buffing a LOT more often...kind of what happens when you see headlights going continually dull every few months after buffing them out (they also have a UV layer from the factory).
Use as mild a polish as possible to get back the gloss, avoid a cutting compound if you can.and use a polymer sealant on it 2 to 3 times a year minimum.
Good luck
When urethane cures, the UV inhibitors migrate to the upper 5% of the paint, so you only want to buff it when it starts to dull, and not too deep or too often because well, when the UV layer is gone you'll be buffing a LOT more often...kind of what happens when you see headlights going continually dull every few months after buffing them out (they also have a UV layer from the factory).
Use as mild a polish as possible to get back the gloss, avoid a cutting compound if you can.and use a polymer sealant on it 2 to 3 times a year minimum.
Good luck
07-15-14, 01:35 PM
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Have to admit, I've never been asked that one before...
Metallic will have reflective micro flakes (iron oxide) that shine, think of like glitter that kids use, only on a much more microscopic level...you can easily see the difference in single stage paint and metallic/ pearls especially in sunlight because they will appear to have tiny specks in them that sparkle, while SS paint will look like a piece of colored paper with uniform tone and no specs...
If unsure, start looking at cars around you on a sunny day in your daily routine or at a car lot. Once you see it you'll know. Even easier; Google images of all 3 types, and look for close-up shots.
Pearls are similar, though different in certain ways, but still have an 'iridescent' type of patina.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Or...go to the shop that painted it and ask, but, FWIW, I have never seen a modern day paint shop use a single stage urethane metallic without a clear...it's just not done anymore (for engines and parts sure-but NOT a whole car exterior). Never say never, but if they did they would really have to spray the SS metallic PERFECT without runs or sags and very even as they cannot safely wet sand/buff w/o causing visual problems...most shops know this and just don't bother using a SS metallic.
Metallic will have reflective micro flakes (iron oxide) that shine, think of like glitter that kids use, only on a much more microscopic level...you can easily see the difference in single stage paint and metallic/ pearls especially in sunlight because they will appear to have tiny specks in them that sparkle, while SS paint will look like a piece of colored paper with uniform tone and no specs...
If unsure, start looking at cars around you on a sunny day in your daily routine or at a car lot. Once you see it you'll know. Even easier; Google images of all 3 types, and look for close-up shots.
Pearls are similar, though different in certain ways, but still have an 'iridescent' type of patina.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Or...go to the shop that painted it and ask, but, FWIW, I have never seen a modern day paint shop use a single stage urethane metallic without a clear...it's just not done anymore (for engines and parts sure-but NOT a whole car exterior). Never say never, but if they did they would really have to spray the SS metallic PERFECT without runs or sags and very even as they cannot safely wet sand/buff w/o causing visual problems...most shops know this and just don't bother using a SS metallic.
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