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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Hooey I tells ya. I have had many luxury vehicles with folding seats (in fact EVERY luxury vehicle I've ever owned had them) with no compromises in body stiffness or noise levels. Vehicles from Acura, Audi, Infiniti and even Lexus.
Good lord...

Which part of the HS250h is a hybrid do you not understand?

For all those luxury cars that you've owned, do any of them have to carry a bunch of battery packs?

READ CLOSELY, no one is trying to say the HS250h doesn't have folding seats is due to body stiffness or noise issues, it's simply that THEY NEED TO PUT THE BATTERIES SOMEWHERE!! Also, the HS is a sedan unlike the higher RX450h which the engineers can tuck the batteries underneath.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by w@ntonsoup
Sorry, we're not going to agree on this one. When a car is being designed, they make a list of requirements and the engineers work them all in. 4 doors. 4 seats. a trunk. 4 wheels. ability to fit a 6 foot human.
Yeah, you also missed the most important requirements...

MAKE IT A SEDAN
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ffpowerLN
Good lord...

Which part of the HS250h is a hybrid do you not understand?

For all those luxury cars that you've owned, do any of them have to carry a bunch of battery packs?

READ CLOSELY, no one is trying to say the HS250h doesn't have folding seats is due to body stiffness or noise issues, it's simply that THEY NEED TO PUT THE BATTERIES SOMEWHERE!! Also, the HS is a sedan unlike the higher RX450h which the engineers can tuck the batteries underneath.
4-door Hybrid vehicles with folding rear seats:

Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius

In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by w@ntonsoup
4-door Hybrid vehicles with folding rear seats:

Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius

In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
Why don't you get one of those then
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by w@ntonsoup
4-door Hybrid vehicles with folding rear seats:

Chevrolet Malibu
Honda Insight
Nissan Altima
Saturn Aura
Toyota Camry
Toyota Prius

In fact, the list of hybrids without folding seats is shorter. Like I said, we aren't going to reach consensus here. I think it's a design shortcoming. You apparently can live with it. Such is the reason there is more than one vehicle available to purchase
Camry Hybrid battery pack:



And this is the amount of access (or the lack of) that you get from the folding seats with the batteries in the trunk:



Altima Hybrid:

"Hybrid battery eliminates a fold-down rear seat"

http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...maHybrid_2.htm

Malibu Hybrid / Aura Hybrid:

The Malibu Hybrid is a mild hybrid, which means it's a joke comparing to the Toyota HSD system...

Saturn Aura Hybrid uses the same system as the Malibu hybrid.



The black box with the blue cable houses the 36-volt hybrid battery that powers the motor/alternator for engine assist as well as restarting the engine from AUTO STOP mode. Protective cover removed for photo.

http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...id-battery.htm

Toyota Prius:

Toyota Prius is a hatch back, which make it have more room in the trunk area. As you can see from the picture, in that area the cabin is also much taller comparing to the Camry hybrid.



http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...id-battery.htm

Honda Insight:


See Prius.



http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...ht-battery.htm
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^^ lol thank you FFPower
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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I do think that having folding seats in general would be an asset for an entry-level Lexus car...did the first IS have them? In any case, I have used the folding seats in the RX, and in Camrys, the TSX etc--useful for those large items.

The LSh trunk was expanded yet again this year, but the HS trunk is quite sizeable for a hybrid sedan.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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nope, the 1gen did not have folding seats. just a pass through
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Wow, didn't know that about the Camry thanks.....

You know the funny thing. Even NON hybrid Lexus sedans don't have fold down seats
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Well, with the CT200h my issues are resolved - and it's a perfect replacement for my Audi A3! Problem solved, and with a Lexus, even better!
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