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tommy420 Sep 1, 2004 07:33 PM

buying 19" rims
 
ive tried searching but couldnt really find the rigfht topics

im planning on buying 19's soon, what kind of a brake setup am i going to need?

siniquezu Sep 1, 2004 07:59 PM

up to you.

G Star Sep 1, 2004 08:24 PM

performance wise...none. show wise, you're going to need some brembo's buddy.:cool:

and 19's doesnt up the ponies..;)

Hermosa Sep 1, 2004 08:29 PM

Depends on budget...

Stock Supra TT Brakes Front - 12.6"
Regular price: $895.00

Stop Tech 13" Big Brake Kit Supra Front
Regular price: $1,995.00

Stop Tech 14" Big Brake Kit Supra Front
Regular price: $2,600.00

Brembo F40 Brake Kit - 13.28"
Regular price: $3,000.00

Brembo Big Brake Kit Supra F50 14"
Regular price: $3,300.00

AP Racing 6 Piston 13.5" Big Brake
Regular price: $3,400.00

Stop Tech 14" Front & Rear Big Brake Kit Supra
Regular price: $4,995.00

Hermosa Sep 1, 2004 08:43 PM


Originally posted by Calvin L
performance wise...none.
Nope...

Take it from countless folks on here who have large rims and they will gladly advocate larger brakes. Larger rims with the mass farther from the center take more force to stop than smaller rims of equal mass. Basic physics. Do a search.

2jzsc3 Sep 1, 2004 10:56 PM


Originally posted by Hermosa
Nope...

Take it from countless folks on here who have large rims and they will gladly advocate larger brakes. Larger rims with the mass farther from the center take more force to stop than smaller rims of equal mass. Basic physics. Do a search.

Yeah.. I got your back on this one.. its true!

ACleanSC4 Sep 1, 2004 11:07 PM

calvin, you're going to need to do some more reading buddy...

bigger wheels will need bigger brakes...I'm sure we've told you this from the meets you've been at...

at least you don't drive with your highbeams on anymore right? :egads:

G Star Sep 2, 2004 12:19 AM

my bad:egads:

although it still doesnt make sense to me.:o

nope, hids are in and high beams are off.

TopSCecreT Sep 2, 2004 12:50 AM


Originally posted by Hermosa
Depends on budget...

Stock Supra TT Brakes Front - 12.6"
Regular price: $895.00

Stop Tech 13" Big Brake Kit Supra Front
Regular price: $1,995.00

Stop Tech 14" Big Brake Kit Supra Front
Regular price: $2,600.00

Brembo F40 Brake Kit - 13.28"
Regular price: $3,000.00

Brembo Big Brake Kit Supra F50 14"
Regular price: $3,300.00

AP Racing 6 Piston 13.5" Big Brake
Regular price: $3,400.00

Stop Tech 14" Front & Rear Big Brake Kit Supra
Regular price: $4,995.00

don't forget Endless: 4 grand just for fronts :eek2:

legendary Sep 2, 2004 03:12 AM

I am an advocate for brakes as well...

If you do not upgrade your brakes, you will find yourself standing on the pedal in an emergency situation.

As stated above, the minimum you should do is the Supra or Brembo brake upgrade. Keep in mind that if you do this, you will need to get a front wheel with the correct disk (high) fitment to clear the calipers. This can also be found by searching.

Key words to use

BBK
High Disk
Low Disk
Offset
Calipers

Good luck on your search

CK6Speed Sep 2, 2004 03:51 AM

Since the Supra TT brakes are a direct bolt on, why doesn't anyone find a machine shop to fabricate a caliper braket that repositions the stock SC calipers further out to fit the 12.6" Supra disks? This could save us a lot of money since we would just have to but the Supra rotors. I know it can be done since some aftermarket brake companies do retain the stock calipers but just include new caliper brackets and the larger rotors. Also, I know OEM applications such as the 91-96 vs 97+ NSX does this as well. With that said, does anyone know if Toyota sells the Supra TT caliper bracket independently from the caliper? I would love to buy the brackets only and use the SC calipers. Also what about the rear brakes?

siaxazn Sep 2, 2004 10:40 AM


Originally posted by CK6Speed
Since the Supra TT brakes are a direct bolt on, why doesn't anyone find a machine shop to fabricate a caliper braket that repositions the stock SC calipers further out to fit the 12.6" Supra disks? This could save us a lot of money since we would just have to but the Supra rotors. I know it can be done since some aftermarket brake companies do retain the stock calipers but just include new caliper brackets and the larger rotors. Also, I know OEM applications such as the 91-96 vs 97+ NSX does this as well. With that said, does anyone know if Toyota sells the Supra TT caliper bracket independently from the caliper? I would love to buy the brackets only and use the SC calipers. Also what about the rear brakes?
this would not increase your stopping power much if any because the sc300 calipers are 2 piston and the supra tt calipers are 4 piston. The cheapest route to go is to get the ls400 calipers you can get a used set for $200 from aliga. They are direct bolt in for the sc and are 4 piston. The rotors are about a quater inch smaller i beleive. But still just as effective for the right price.

C-Web Sep 2, 2004 11:27 AM


Originally posted by Hermosa
Nope...

Take it from countless folks on here who have large rims and they will gladly advocate larger brakes. Larger rims with the mass farther from the center take more force to stop than smaller rims of equal mass. Basic physics. Do a search.

I agree that this is probably true in most cases, but if you're switching to a larger diameter, but LIGHTER rim, this may not be the case. Although more of the mass would be further away from the center, if the larger wheel is lighter, it could still have a lower moment of inertia. It is my understanding that most aftermarket rims are a good deal lighter than the stock ones, even though they are larger in diamter.

Additionnally, lighter wheels lower the overall mass and translational momentum of your car no matter what their diameter. This could offset any increase in wheel inertia (and rotational momentum) from the perspective of your brakes and your engine.

I'd like to see what the equvalent "weight" increase is when switching from stock 16's to an average (weight) set of 19's.

Regardless of performance concerns, a nice, big set of brakes looks good behind some shiny new 19's!

tommy420 Sep 2, 2004 12:17 PM

ah, im pretty much maxing my budget as of now on some nice rims....speaking saftey only right now not show , would it be ok to ride on stock brakes for a month or two?

C-Web Sep 2, 2004 12:27 PM

You're best bet would be to put on the 19's and test the stopping power yourself in a parking lot. My guess is, you'll be fine. I bet the increase in wheel inertia (if there is an increase) will be small compared to the weight of your 3600lb vehicle, so you probably won't feel much of a difference.

Try it and tell us about it.


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