Hifiman1

I'm on the fence about this choice between the two tires. I'm after the quietest tire I can get.

What scares me about the p7 is people saying it's like driving on ice.

Anyone have any experience with both?

abefromansausag

A friend of mine just got rid of the p7 all seasons on his Altima for the same reason. They would spin every time it rained

LeX2K

Have a set of P7's no issues in the rain I do find it strange that some people say they are horrible in wet conditions. I have driven them in semi-winter conditions they were fine. I don't find them them the quietest or best riding tires doubt I would buy again. The ride gets significantly worse when temps go below about 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

MBH

I purchased my 2009 ES350 with the p7s. Loved them---the quiet, smooth, effortless ride made all the difference. I live in the southeast; I never had any problems like "driving on ice." They are not the most-responsive or road-gripping tire; they deliver the luxury ride you want and paid for in your Lexus.

I replaced the p7s 5 days ago with Bridgestone Turanza Quiet track. Quiet, my fanny! I immediately noticed that the Turanzas delivered far more tire noise (not the low, general hum you'll always get, but the loud whisper of air rushing between the grooves) than the P7s. Also, the ride is noticeably firmer. Again, in the grand scheme of things, the differences are negligible. But you like what you're used to, and because my car was silent before, I now notice the noise. I'm going to keep the Turanzas for about 30 days to see if the ride and noise improves; if not, I'll take advantage of the Firestone 90-day satisfaction guarantee and switch them out for p7s.

Wihunge

There is a lot of posts on tire noise here. I would like to get the quietest tire I can next time I need them. One thing to consider here is that the es ultra luxury is equipped with lateral dampers which are designed to take some of the vibration out while on the road. The other trims don’t have them. This was one of the main reasons I bought the Ul. The car rides extremely quite in my experience.

ArmyofOne

My problem with the P7's is that I only have 20k miles on them, and they are 75% worn. I rotate every 5k miles, maintain even pressures, etc. They are all wearing evenly, they are just wearing FAST. I am almost certain its the combo of the LS460's 3 ton weight (nearly) and the heat we get here. The Cooper Ultra Touring CS5's they replaced wore like iron, but were noisy as hell so I had to ditch them. I'll need tires again by spring. Not sure what I will get, but I know it won't be Coopers again, and probably not these. I will likely go back to Michelin. They're expensive, but as far as quality and wear times, they are the most consistent, and quiet tires money can buy.

SW17LS

I got consistently 40-45k miles on mine before I replaced them at 5/32nds, at 5/32nds they probably had another 15k miles life left on them before they would be to the wear bars. I had 4 sets on 2 LS460s

ArmyofOne

I know, many people I talk to have said the same thing, but none of them live below the mason-dixon line. on a 105F degree day (which is nearly every day here late june-mid september), concrete temps can reach 200F+ I am betting that has more to do with it than anything. 90% of our freeways here are made of concrete because asphalt just doesn't cope well with the temps here.

SW17LS

I technically live below the mason dixon line lol, but I get your point.

ArmyofOne

Steve, do you run a dedicated snow tire in winter? May also have an effect.

SW17LS

No, we don't get cold enough winters here for that to make sense, I run allseasons year round

texas008

I'm at Houston TX, current set of P7 has about 5~6/32 left after 35k miles mostly highway driving. will probably replace them in another 5k miles.