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I dont know, they are ok imho and not for what they cost, why do rims have to cost so much money? You would figure for that type of money the rims would practically be indestructible
Yeah, 3rd one down is my favorite from these. HRE's aren't cheap but they do make an outstanding product. Last 3 sets of wheels on my cars were HRE's and the next definitely will be...possibly on an IS-F if the deal on the car goes through.