20x9.5 in Front... issues?
03-04-05, 11:04 AM
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20x9.5 in Front... issues?
So I FINALLY found the rims I want (Ssshh Bryan) but before I buy them I need to know something...
Unfortunatly they are 20x9.5 in the front and I don't get to choose a skinnier wheel. I bought Intrax springs (cause rims or not I need them) and i'm ordering those KYB shocks from tirerack sometime tommorw. My question is... before I go ahead with this... is 20x9.5 going to be an issue with a 1-3/4 drop? I don't want any issues with rubbing though I am going to get my fenders rolled.
Let me know, thanks! If all goes well i'll have pics the second the wheels arrive.
Unfortunatly they are 20x9.5 in the front and I don't get to choose a skinnier wheel. I bought Intrax springs (cause rims or not I need them) and i'm ordering those KYB shocks from tirerack sometime tommorw. My question is... before I go ahead with this... is 20x9.5 going to be an issue with a 1-3/4 drop? I don't want any issues with rubbing though I am going to get my fenders rolled.
Let me know, thanks! If all goes well i'll have pics the second the wheels arrive.
03-04-05, 11:48 AM
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Depends on the offset. Biggest problem I can see (I have 18x9) is hitting the control arm on the inside of the wheel well. I have about 1/4 in clearance, so I'm guessing chances are these will NOT fit.
03-04-05, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by johnee78
Yeah but he is talking about running a 20x9.5..
Yeah I know but offset is offset and 1 extra inch in diameter is fine. If it rubs, he can roll or shave his fenders.
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03-04-05, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LexAristo
Yeah I know but offset is offset and 1 extra inch in diameter is fine. If it rubs, he can roll or shave his fenders.
Offset is offset but rim width does come into play. His +40 on his 9.5 is like +27 on your 8.5. Yes that is still higher than your +23 but it is still VERY aggressive. That is only a comparison of how it behaves on the outside. There is still the 1/2" on the inside.
Plus, if he is planning to run the typical 245/35 on his 20s, it is a whole different ball game than that size on 19s. He will have an extra 1" in outside diameter. In this case, the 9.5 might help a little by stretching the tire a bit. With a 1 3/4" drop, there will likely be some rubbing, especially with full turns or reverse. Fender rolling and liner tucking will help alleviate the rubbing but I have a feeling there will be some.
With all this said, I am not 100% familiar with the 1GS wheel/wheelwell spec so I may be off be a few mms.
I am not saying don't do this. It is just in the borderline area that raises red flags theoretically and it is more difficult to guarantee an answer.
03-04-05, 10:02 PM
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umm imho it's going to be very close, you might need to give in some negative camber to make it fit. on the second 2gs a member put on 9.5 +45 with 245 and he's ok. i know the 1gs has more slack, so you might be fine. but again, it's going to be close
03-05-05, 09:13 AM
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You'll be fine with 20x9.5 +40- this is what I now have on my GS. It does sit very close to the suspension, however- perhaps 3 or 4mm is all the clearance you'll have, and all the clearance you'll need.
Depending on what tire you run, you might need to roll the front fenders slightly to ensure clearance- my car is so low that if you're going in a steep driveway at an angle (necessary in my case due to the Explosion front bumper!) the tire comes very close to hitting the fender when the wheels are turned fully one direction. I stretched the fenders a bit for a little safety.
I run a 255/35-20 on the 20x9.5- this was done intentionally to match the slight stretch on the rear 20x10.5 and 285/30-20 tires. I didn't want the super-stretched Japanese drifter look, but a slight tire stretch can actually reduce potential rubbing. I know a 275/30-20 would fit up there, but this will certainly require more modifications to ensure you can turn the wheels lock-to-lock.
A 245/35-20 will likely not rub at all, but will be stretched...
Here is what a 255/35-20 looks like on 20x9.5... see how close it is with the wheels turned?
Depending on what tire you run, you might need to roll the front fenders slightly to ensure clearance- my car is so low that if you're going in a steep driveway at an angle (necessary in my case due to the Explosion front bumper!) the tire comes very close to hitting the fender when the wheels are turned fully one direction. I stretched the fenders a bit for a little safety.
I run a 255/35-20 on the 20x9.5- this was done intentionally to match the slight stretch on the rear 20x10.5 and 285/30-20 tires. I didn't want the super-stretched Japanese drifter look, but a slight tire stretch can actually reduce potential rubbing. I know a 275/30-20 would fit up there, but this will certainly require more modifications to ensure you can turn the wheels lock-to-lock.
A 245/35-20 will likely not rub at all, but will be stretched...
Here is what a 255/35-20 looks like on 20x9.5... see how close it is with the wheels turned?
03-05-05, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCalSC4
You'll be fine with 20x9.5 +40- this is what I now have on my GS. It does sit very close to the suspension, however- perhaps 3 or 4mm is all the clearance you'll have, and all the clearance you'll need.
Depending on what tire you run, you might need to roll the front fenders slightly to ensure clearance- my car is so low that if you're going in a steep driveway at an angle (necessary in my case due to the Explosion front bumper!) the tire comes very close to hitting the fender when the wheels are turned fully one direction. I stretched the fenders a bit for a little safety.
I run a 255/35-20 on the 20x9.5- this was done intentionally to match the slight stretch on the rear 20x10.5 and 285/30-20 tires. I didn't want the super-stretched Japanese drifter look, but a slight tire stretch can actually reduce potential rubbing. I know a 275/30-20 would fit up there, but this will certainly require more modifications to ensure you can turn the wheels lock-to-lock.
A 245/35-20 will likely not rub at all, but will be stretched...
Here is what a 255/35-20 looks like on 20x9.5... see how close it is with the wheels turned?
Depending on what tire you run, you might need to roll the front fenders slightly to ensure clearance- my car is so low that if you're going in a steep driveway at an angle (necessary in my case due to the Explosion front bumper!) the tire comes very close to hitting the fender when the wheels are turned fully one direction. I stretched the fenders a bit for a little safety.
I run a 255/35-20 on the 20x9.5- this was done intentionally to match the slight stretch on the rear 20x10.5 and 285/30-20 tires. I didn't want the super-stretched Japanese drifter look, but a slight tire stretch can actually reduce potential rubbing. I know a 275/30-20 would fit up there, but this will certainly require more modifications to ensure you can turn the wheels lock-to-lock.
A 245/35-20 will likely not rub at all, but will be stretched...
Here is what a 255/35-20 looks like on 20x9.5... see how close it is with the wheels turned?
03-05-05, 09:41 AM
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Hey! Thanks for all the help! Now heres a few things...
first off I AM getting the fenders rolled so that will help alot correct?
If I bought spacers for the front and back would that give me more room? The last thing I need is suspension damage or a problem but this deal is awesome.
And 255/35/20 is the tires I need right? Or was that 245/35?
I really wish this guy had even 20x9 instead of 9.5 but i'm saving $2,000 on brand new rims so...
first off I AM getting the fenders rolled so that will help alot correct?
If I bought spacers for the front and back would that give me more room? The last thing I need is suspension damage or a problem but this deal is awesome.
And 255/35/20 is the tires I need right? Or was that 245/35?
I really wish this guy had even 20x9 instead of 9.5 but i'm saving $2,000 on brand new rims so...
03-05-05, 02:59 PM
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Thanks for the confirmation Bob. Theoretical numbers can't be beat by real life experience.
As for spacers, Bob has already confirmed 9.5 w/+40 offset. Spacers will effectively lower the offset. I think you will be in trouble. I think if Bob could have gone more aggressive, he probably would have.
So Bob, do you have no rubbing at all with this setup? If not, what is the extent of the rub? Kind of curious if I ever get new wheels.
As for spacers, Bob has already confirmed 9.5 w/+40 offset. Spacers will effectively lower the offset. I think you will be in trouble. I think if Bob could have gone more aggressive, he probably would have.
So Bob, do you have no rubbing at all with this setup? If not, what is the extent of the rub? Kind of curious if I ever get new wheels.
03-05-05, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Neo
Thanks for the confirmation Bob. Theoretical numbers can't be beat by real life experience.
As for spacers, Bob has already confirmed 9.5 w/+40 offset. Spacers will effectively lower the offset. I think you will be in trouble. I think if Bob could have gone more aggressive, he probably would have.
So Bob, do you have no rubbing at all with this setup? If not, what is the extent of the rub? Kind of curious if I ever get new wheels.
As for spacers, Bob has already confirmed 9.5 w/+40 offset. Spacers will effectively lower the offset. I think you will be in trouble. I think if Bob could have gone more aggressive, he probably would have.
So Bob, do you have no rubbing at all with this setup? If not, what is the extent of the rub? Kind of curious if I ever get new wheels.