Rotora Big Brakes
12-10-04, 04:50 PM
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Rotora Big Brakes
Is anybody running the Rotora 4 piston caliper front big brakes? I would like to get some reviews on them, cause I have been considering purchasing some 
So? Let me know....
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-Josh
So? Let me know....
OR Thanks!
-Josh
12-12-04, 10:02 PM
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I was researching this a while ago, I think that the supra TT big brake upgrade is better for the money. The only reason that i would think of going rotora is because of the looks. The supra TT upgrade is 4 piston calipers too, and i think they will stop just as good. Personally I have never been in a car with the rotoras but i think that the supra TT's are good.
Kevin
Think about this, there are guys here with 900rwhp monsters that are just using the supra TT brakes. Why spend 500$ more for the rotora's?
just my .02$ do whatever floats your boat, i was just giving you something to think about.
Kevin
Think about this, there are guys here with 900rwhp monsters that are just using the supra TT brakes. Why spend 500$ more for the rotora's?
just my .02$ do whatever floats your boat, i was just giving you something to think about.
12-12-04, 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by lexcoupe
Why spend 500$ more for the rotora's?
Why spend 500$ more for the rotora's?
1. Looks (subjective) - Some may prefer the looks of the Rotora calipers
2. Weight - The Rotora calipers are lighter than the TTs. The Rotora rotors, in particular, the 2-pc ones are lighter than most 1-pc rotors that are used with the TTs. I realize it may be possible to get 2-pc rotors in sizes that are compatible with the TTs but I have not seen anyone post about it yet. I know lexforlife was looking into it at one point but I don't know if he ever bought any.
The weight loss is VERY noticeable. Even though the StopTech caliper and rotors were larger than OEM, they were lighter. When I put on my StopTech 355s, I noticed how nimble the car became sinse it lost the wieight at the wheels. I assume the Rotoras would have similar results.
3. Clearance - Rotora calipers require less clearance than the TTs. For some, this allows them to have BBKs because just the difference in size of the Rotoras and TTs will help some wheels.
12-13-04, 12:14 AM
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There is a GS member that got blue 4 pot setup Rotoras on the GS forums. You can check it out at the GS forums.
Kinda off-topic:
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
Kinda off-topic:
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
12-13-04, 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by One HoT SC400
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
You are correct in the sense that these calipers are typically paired witll 355mm rotors. The size of the rotors is what causes the 18" requirement.
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12-13-04, 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by Neo
I will not get into stopping power since essentially, I agree. No one has done true road tests on all the different BBKs on the appropriate cars (SC, GS, ...) so talking about stopping distance and such will be just theoretical. BUT, there are some other reasons where the Rotora would be worth the extra cash.
1. Looks (subjective) - Some may prefer the looks of the Rotora calipers
2. Weight - The Rotora calipers are lighter than the TTs. The Rotora rotors, in particular, the 2-pc ones are lighter than most 1-pc rotors that are used with the TTs. I realize it may be possible to get 2-pc rotors in sizes that are compatible with the TTs but I have not seen anyone post about it yet. I know lexforlife was looking into it at one point but I don't know if he ever bought any.
The weight loss is VERY noticeable. Even though the StopTech caliper and rotors were larger than OEM, they were lighter. When I put on my StopTech 355s, I noticed how nimble the car became sinse it lost the wieight at the wheels. I assume the Rotoras would have similar results.
3. Clearance - Rotora calipers require less clearance than the TTs. For some, this allows them to have BBKs because just the difference in size of the Rotoras and TTs will help some wheels.
I will not get into stopping power since essentially, I agree. No one has done true road tests on all the different BBKs on the appropriate cars (SC, GS, ...) so talking about stopping distance and such will be just theoretical. BUT, there are some other reasons where the Rotora would be worth the extra cash.
1. Looks (subjective) - Some may prefer the looks of the Rotora calipers
2. Weight - The Rotora calipers are lighter than the TTs. The Rotora rotors, in particular, the 2-pc ones are lighter than most 1-pc rotors that are used with the TTs. I realize it may be possible to get 2-pc rotors in sizes that are compatible with the TTs but I have not seen anyone post about it yet. I know lexforlife was looking into it at one point but I don't know if he ever bought any.
The weight loss is VERY noticeable. Even though the StopTech caliper and rotors were larger than OEM, they were lighter. When I put on my StopTech 355s, I noticed how nimble the car became sinse it lost the wieight at the wheels. I assume the Rotoras would have similar results.
3. Clearance - Rotora calipers require less clearance than the TTs. For some, this allows them to have BBKs because just the difference in size of the Rotoras and TTs will help some wheels.
but in terms of weight, the rotora (and some other bbk) they are much lighter than the tt brakes, that makes quite a bit of difference
12-13-04, 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by One HoT SC400
There is a GS member that got blue 4 pot setup Rotoras on the GS forums. You can check it out at the GS forums.
Kinda off-topic:
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
There is a GS member that got blue 4 pot setup Rotoras on the GS forums. You can check it out at the GS forums.
Kinda off-topic:
I found one thing negative about having a aftermarket 6 or 8 pot setup. There is no sizeable spare that you can use if you ever get stuck on the road since they require a 18 inch spare where you can simply carry in your trunk. So can you do in a situation like this?
12-13-04, 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by Neo
I will not get into stopping power since essentially, I agree. No one has done true road tests on all the different BBKs on the appropriate cars (SC, GS, ...) so talking about stopping distance and such will be just theoretical. BUT, there are some other reasons where the Rotora would be worth the extra cash.
1. Looks (subjective) - Some may prefer the looks of the Rotora calipers
2. Weight - The Rotora calipers are lighter than the TTs. The Rotora rotors, in particular, the 2-pc ones are lighter than most 1-pc rotors that are used with the TTs. I realize it may be possible to get 2-pc rotors in sizes that are compatible with the TTs but I have not seen anyone post about it yet. I know lexforlife was looking into it at one point but I don't know if he ever bought any.
The weight loss is VERY noticeable. Even though the StopTech caliper and rotors were larger than OEM, they were lighter. When I put on my StopTech 355s, I noticed how nimble the car became sinse it lost the wieight at the wheels. I assume the Rotoras would have similar results.
3. Clearance - Rotora calipers require less clearance than the TTs. For some, this allows them to have BBKs because just the difference in size of the Rotoras and TTs will help some wheels.
I will not get into stopping power since essentially, I agree. No one has done true road tests on all the different BBKs on the appropriate cars (SC, GS, ...) so talking about stopping distance and such will be just theoretical. BUT, there are some other reasons where the Rotora would be worth the extra cash.
1. Looks (subjective) - Some may prefer the looks of the Rotora calipers
2. Weight - The Rotora calipers are lighter than the TTs. The Rotora rotors, in particular, the 2-pc ones are lighter than most 1-pc rotors that are used with the TTs. I realize it may be possible to get 2-pc rotors in sizes that are compatible with the TTs but I have not seen anyone post about it yet. I know lexforlife was looking into it at one point but I don't know if he ever bought any.
The weight loss is VERY noticeable. Even though the StopTech caliper and rotors were larger than OEM, they were lighter. When I put on my StopTech 355s, I noticed how nimble the car became sinse it lost the wieight at the wheels. I assume the Rotoras would have similar results.
3. Clearance - Rotora calipers require less clearance than the TTs. For some, this allows them to have BBKs because just the difference in size of the Rotoras and TTs will help some wheels.
yeah thats right chris , i has looked into it quite abit and found it was cost prohibitive to buy 2 piece rotors.. they avg between 500-700 and to my knowledge only 2 makers out there ,dba and project mu and the weight savings alone is only 11/2-2lbs per rotor lighter.. the real benefit of 2 piece rotor was better heat dis to allow the rotor to expand and contact independant of the rotor hat aiding in the prevention of warpage from excessive heat
me personally if i decide to keep the gs much longer (long story there) will be upgrading to 6pots and maybe 6/4 setup for the ultimate in stopping and weight reduction
12-13-04, 06:35 AM
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Guys also remember the practicality issue.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
12-13-04, 07:52 AM
#12
Originally posted by CleanSC
Guys also remember the practicality issue.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
Guys also remember the practicality issue.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
excellent point .. you now got me thinking is it really and truly worth it seeing i do not autocross or do i
12-13-04, 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Neo
The 6 or 8 pot setup in themselves do not require 18" wheels. They will require a spare with adequate BBK clearance.
You are correct in the sense that these calipers are typically paired witll 355mm rotors. The size of the rotors is what causes the 18" requirement.
The 6 or 8 pot setup in themselves do not require 18" wheels. They will require a spare with adequate BBK clearance.
You are correct in the sense that these calipers are typically paired witll 355mm rotors. The size of the rotors is what causes the 18" requirement.
12-13-04, 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by CleanSC
Guys also remember the practicality issue.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
Guys also remember the practicality issue.
With the Rotora setup you are at their mercy for replacement parts. And in case anyone forgot, brakes are wear items.
What happens when you need to replace the pads? Or you score a rotor? EEEK I'd hate to see what they want for a new rotor.
I installed the LS4 BBK and with used calipers, brand new pads, and brand new rotors. Total cost for everything? $191. Yes, the complete kit, $191. Sure beats $2k and up. And if I need a new rotor, or a set of pads, I can get them anywhere and instantly for $30. Rebuilt calipers for $70.
Try that with Rotora, Brembo or Stoptech.
Just another option for you to consider before you blow thousands on something you can fix with hundreds.
Kevin
12-13-04, 09:52 AM
#15
Originally posted by One HoT SC400
Thanks for the clarification Neo. According to Steve Ganz GB, 6 and 8 pot BBK required a 18 inch wheel minimum. So I assumed that 6 and 8 pot BBK came only 1 sized 2 piece rotors.
Thanks for the clarification Neo. According to Steve Ganz GB, 6 and 8 pot BBK required a 18 inch wheel minimum. So I assumed that 6 and 8 pot BBK came only 1 sized 2 piece rotors.
As for the maintenance costs, I agree. The LS and TT brakes are nice. I don't think anyone disputed that. Their cost of upgrade and replacement/maintenance is also nice. These would be factors to be weighed by customers. Still, it does not take away from the benefits I listed above. Other than cost, the Rotora BBKs are are still lighter and need less clearance. The clearance is a big deal. No matter how good the pricing is on a BBK, if they don't fit, they just don't fit. (I am focusing on just the brakes here. I know there are potentials of using spacers or shaving or getting new wheels.
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