Ok ordering Tires for 19 Wheels? Last Chance
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Ok ordering Tires for 19 Wheels? Last Chance
Last Chance to get this right the first time.
Down to 2 sets of tire options . Either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-DS in one of 2 fitments. Based upon these 2 tires I only have 2 choices to make.
19X8.5 Offset 35 MM 1. Option 245/35/19 (spec) and or tall option 245/40/19
19X9.5 Offset 40 MM 2. Option 275/30/19 (spec) and or tall option 275/35/19
Appreciate confirmation that the tall option will work? Wheel manufacturer says the tall will have issues?
I am willing to grind the rears if I have too. Just want to know going in. Car is not lowered. Never ride 4 people.
To make this less theory, and more practice, is any one running the tall option, 245/40/19 on the front of 19/8.5 35MM
and 275/35/19 on a 19X9.5 40MM??
I just want to know for sure the issues, if any, before buying the tires. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Rick
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From previous Post Romini Says.
"well the standard within spec sizes are 245/35/19 and 275/30/19, that's totally within spec and you are fine
with 245/40/19 and 275/35/19, you get more sidewall, more comfrtable ride, but it's out of spec and your speedo will be off. from the offset, the rear will fit no problem with the tire, the front should be very ok too, might rub a bit when you doing hard lock full turns, but that's about it coz' you are not lowering. i don't know what the shops are talking about that you will rub in the back
putting 285/30/19 or 285/35/19 in the back would be nice, but you will probably rub slightly on the outside, and you will have to shave a bit of the fender in order to fit it. that's your call now."
Thank you Romini. You seemed to be more accurate than the wheel manufacture?
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From Previous Post
after 4 weeks of looking I found a wheel. 19 inch Carre SP3. GS400.
1. 19X8.5 Front offset 35 MM
2. 19X9.5 Rear offset 40 MM
Expect to get new Goodyear F1 or new Michelin SP2 tires.
All the refer guides say I can run a 275/35/19 in the rear on that size 19x9.5 wheel. The wheel and offset says "conservative. Is a 285/35/19 possible for the rear? One opinion is that I would have to run a 275/30/19 in the rear? Of coarse its all in the math and no combination of wheel size, width and offset seem to be exactly the same. One sales person claims the 275/35/19 would rub with my selected wheel and I would have to run a 275/30/19 which is down on sidewall size?
I want as much rubber between the wheel rim and the road. Currently run stock 17X8 50 and 245/45/17 on both, no problems although the front is very tight.
Want the front to be conservative and stay close to 3.75 to 4 inches of sidewall height.. Want the back as big as possible without hacking up the fenders?
I don't know how you would ever know fitments for sure unless someone has the exact wheel you want to try?
CAR is GS400 standard suspension.
Down to 2 sets of tire options . Either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-DS in one of 2 fitments. Based upon these 2 tires I only have 2 choices to make.
19X8.5 Offset 35 MM 1. Option 245/35/19 (spec) and or tall option 245/40/19
19X9.5 Offset 40 MM 2. Option 275/30/19 (spec) and or tall option 275/35/19
Appreciate confirmation that the tall option will work? Wheel manufacturer says the tall will have issues?
I am willing to grind the rears if I have too. Just want to know going in. Car is not lowered. Never ride 4 people.
To make this less theory, and more practice, is any one running the tall option, 245/40/19 on the front of 19/8.5 35MM
and 275/35/19 on a 19X9.5 40MM??
I just want to know for sure the issues, if any, before buying the tires. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Rick
__________________________________________________________________________
From previous Post Romini Says.
"well the standard within spec sizes are 245/35/19 and 275/30/19, that's totally within spec and you are fine
with 245/40/19 and 275/35/19, you get more sidewall, more comfrtable ride, but it's out of spec and your speedo will be off. from the offset, the rear will fit no problem with the tire, the front should be very ok too, might rub a bit when you doing hard lock full turns, but that's about it coz' you are not lowering. i don't know what the shops are talking about that you will rub in the back
putting 285/30/19 or 285/35/19 in the back would be nice, but you will probably rub slightly on the outside, and you will have to shave a bit of the fender in order to fit it. that's your call now."
Thank you Romini. You seemed to be more accurate than the wheel manufacture?
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From Previous Post
after 4 weeks of looking I found a wheel. 19 inch Carre SP3. GS400.
1. 19X8.5 Front offset 35 MM
2. 19X9.5 Rear offset 40 MM
Expect to get new Goodyear F1 or new Michelin SP2 tires.
All the refer guides say I can run a 275/35/19 in the rear on that size 19x9.5 wheel. The wheel and offset says "conservative. Is a 285/35/19 possible for the rear? One opinion is that I would have to run a 275/30/19 in the rear? Of coarse its all in the math and no combination of wheel size, width and offset seem to be exactly the same. One sales person claims the 275/35/19 would rub with my selected wheel and I would have to run a 275/30/19 which is down on sidewall size?
I want as much rubber between the wheel rim and the road. Currently run stock 17X8 50 and 245/45/17 on both, no problems although the front is very tight.
Want the front to be conservative and stay close to 3.75 to 4 inches of sidewall height.. Want the back as big as possible without hacking up the fenders?
I don't know how you would ever know fitments for sure unless someone has the exact wheel you want to try?
CAR is GS400 standard suspension.
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i have the "fat setup" and i don't have any issues at all it's lowered w/ tein flex w/ 1.25 finger gap in the front and 1 finger gap in the rear, i have 19x8.5 w/ 40mm and 5mm spacers in the front. and 19x10 w/45mm in the rear and no rub, i think w/ 285/35 vs. 275/35 will be very close to rubbing. i hope this help
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GSing430
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
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Originally posted by GSing430
i have the "fat setup" and i don't have any issues at all it's lowered w/ tein flex w/ 1.25 finger gap in the front and 1 finger gap in the rear, i have 19x8.5 w/ 40mm and 5mm spacers in the front. and 19x10 w/45mm in the rear and no rub, i think w/ 285/35 vs. 275/35 will be very close to rubbing. i hope this help
i have the "fat setup" and i don't have any issues at all it's lowered w/ tein flex w/ 1.25 finger gap in the front and 1 finger gap in the rear, i have 19x8.5 w/ 40mm and 5mm spacers in the front. and 19x10 w/45mm in the rear and no rub, i think w/ 285/35 vs. 275/35 will be very close to rubbing. i hope this help
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Originally posted by pureshot
GSing430
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
GSing430
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
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rominl
So are you saying the combination of 19x8.5 35 MM 245/35/19 has no issues in the front?? While 19X8.5 35 MM 245/40/19 will rub in the front every once in a while?
The combindation of 19X9.5 40MM 275/30/19 will not rub. While the 19X9.5 40MM 275/35/19 combination will rub in the back?
Pureshot. Guy that sells the wheels says "tall" is just not worth the hassel, and is sure 275/35/19 has issues on the back with his wheel..
The only thing I am willing to do is shave the rear fenders.
Pureshot.
So are you saying the combination of 19x8.5 35 MM 245/35/19 has no issues in the front?? While 19X8.5 35 MM 245/40/19 will rub in the front every once in a while?
The combindation of 19X9.5 40MM 275/30/19 will not rub. While the 19X9.5 40MM 275/35/19 combination will rub in the back?
Pureshot. Guy that sells the wheels says "tall" is just not worth the hassel, and is sure 275/35/19 has issues on the back with his wheel..
The only thing I am willing to do is shave the rear fenders.
Pureshot.
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well, in my opinion and experience, according to your offset and size
1) 245/35/19 should be good in the front
2) 275/30/19 should be goo in the back
3) 245/40/19 will rub a bit in the front at thet top of wheel well, depends on how low you lower and the size of dip/bump
4) depending on what brand of tires you get, with 245/40/19 you might rub the outside front fender
5) 275/35/19 will have no problem in the back
1) 245/35/19 should be good in the front
2) 275/30/19 should be goo in the back
3) 245/40/19 will rub a bit in the front at thet top of wheel well, depends on how low you lower and the size of dip/bump
4) depending on what brand of tires you get, with 245/40/19 you might rub the outside front fender
5) 275/35/19 will have no problem in the back
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Originally posted by pureshot
GSing430
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
GSing430
Then what you are saying is that Romini fitment guide term "Fat setup" does necessarily mean fender work has to be performed?
You are clearing with 245/40/19 (40-5=35) MM fronts and 275/35/19 45 MM rears? No fender grinding.
Of coarse my wheel is 19X9.5 40MM so the offset is 5MM less than yours.
Pureshot
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Originally posted by Neo
Are you sure you did no mods at all to the front? Not even to the wheel well? I know less aggressive setups still had to mess with the well.
Are you sure you did no mods at all to the front? Not even to the wheel well? I know less aggressive setups still had to mess with the well.
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Thanks all
I am going with 245/35/19 on 19X8.5 fronts and 275/35/19 on 19X9.5 rears.
Does anyone have any experience with Goodyear F1 GS-D3 verses Michelin Sport SP2 (new) They are both highly rated on Tire rack/
pureehot
I am going with 245/35/19 on 19X8.5 fronts and 275/35/19 on 19X9.5 rears.
Does anyone have any experience with Goodyear F1 GS-D3 verses Michelin Sport SP2 (new) They are both highly rated on Tire rack/
pureehot
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Originally posted by pureshot
Thanks all
I am going with 245/35/19 on 19X8.5 fronts and 275/35/19 on 19X9.5 rears.
Does anyone have any experience with Goodyear F1 GS-D3 verses Michelin Sport SP2 (new) They are both highly rated on Tire rack/
pureehot
Thanks all
I am going with 245/35/19 on 19X8.5 fronts and 275/35/19 on 19X9.5 rears.
Does anyone have any experience with Goodyear F1 GS-D3 verses Michelin Sport SP2 (new) They are both highly rated on Tire rack/
pureehot
not 245/35 and 275/35
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rominl
Interesting; not sure I understand, but here is my thoughts; All on 19X8.5 35MM Front and 19X9.5 40MM rears.
earlier you say "
1) 245/35/19 should be good in the front ......... You say Ok for the front
2) 275/30/19 should be good in the back
3) 245/40/19 will rub a bit in the front at thet top of wheel well, depends on how low you lower and the size of dip/bump
4) depending on what brand of tires you get, with 245/40/19 you might rub the outside front fender
5) 275/35/19 will have no problem in the back ........ You say Ok for the back.
How are the front, that are Ok, and the back, that are OK related? Could be I just don't see that.
245/40/19 is 26.71 inches tall, 9.64 Width side wall 3.9 inch side wall. Could rub
245/35/19 is 25.75 inches tall 9.64 Width side wall 3.37 inch side wall. Is OK
275/35/19 is 26.57 inches tall 10.82 width side wall 3.78 inch side wall. Is Ok
As the preferred rear is 275/35/19 which is 26.57 inches tall, why would I want the 245/40/19 26.71 inches tall in the front that could potentially rub?? I know it has a bigger side wall, but I don't want any rubbing up front. Its also taller than the rear which could look funny?
I am sure I am missing something, just not sure what.
Pureshot
Interesting; not sure I understand, but here is my thoughts; All on 19X8.5 35MM Front and 19X9.5 40MM rears.
earlier you say "
1) 245/35/19 should be good in the front ......... You say Ok for the front
2) 275/30/19 should be good in the back
3) 245/40/19 will rub a bit in the front at thet top of wheel well, depends on how low you lower and the size of dip/bump
4) depending on what brand of tires you get, with 245/40/19 you might rub the outside front fender
5) 275/35/19 will have no problem in the back ........ You say Ok for the back.
How are the front, that are Ok, and the back, that are OK related? Could be I just don't see that.
245/40/19 is 26.71 inches tall, 9.64 Width side wall 3.9 inch side wall. Could rub
245/35/19 is 25.75 inches tall 9.64 Width side wall 3.37 inch side wall. Is OK
275/35/19 is 26.57 inches tall 10.82 width side wall 3.78 inch side wall. Is Ok
As the preferred rear is 275/35/19 which is 26.57 inches tall, why would I want the 245/40/19 26.71 inches tall in the front that could potentially rub?? I know it has a bigger side wall, but I don't want any rubbing up front. Its also taller than the rear which could look funny?
I am sure I am missing something, just not sure what.
Pureshot
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Originally posted by rominl
you want to match the overall diameter of the front and the back.
you want to match the overall diameter of the front and the back.
This is the key point in rominl's post. Different sizes may work on your car but once you choose a size for the front, you really should match the rear to it (or vice versa).
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Thanks All
I think we are on the same page. As soon as the wheels arrive I will order the tires. I am loking forward to changing the look.
Pureshot
I think we are on the same page. As soon as the wheels arrive I will order the tires. I am loking forward to changing the look.
Pureshot