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Old 06-06-04, 07:48 PM
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Default Racing Hart M6 on GS400 question

I tried searching, but didn't find my answer.

Anyway, are the R/H M6 high quality wheels? I remember reading that some R/Hs are not real 3 pieces. Something about them being made by Dazz Motorsport or something like that.

I'm thinking about these:
18x8 (all around)

+44 offset (I check Rominl's thread about offset for 18x8 and he shows a low 30s offset...I hope these would not pose a problem with rubbing the suspension).

fits both 4 and 5 lug pattern (including 5 x 114.3)

Here are some pictures. Does anyone here have a GS with these wheels on? What do you think about the quality of these wheels? Are they worth $1,000 (used for a couple of months)?

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the RH evolutions aren't the 3-piece versions, but the pic you posted is of the Racing Hart 3pc M6 wheel, i think for $1000 it's a good price with tires

you can tell if they're the real 3-piece by feeling behind the rivets, if you fell the studs behind it, then yes, they're the real ones......

Racing Harts are high quality 3-piece or forged 2-piece wheels

RH Evolution i guess are the single piece, affordable versions of the multi-piece Racing Harts

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That's a pretty good price...

RH Evo isn't really affiliated with Racing Hart....
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Well, the price isn't really $1k

How about the fit? Is the offset correct for a GS400?

I was told that they are 3-piece, but they are welded together (not put together by those bolts).
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wheels aren't wide enough imho and the offset is too high for the width to look good too
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Default Re: Racing Hart M6 on GS400 question

Originally posted by Cadd
I'm thinking about these:
18x8 (all around)

+44 offset (I check Rominl's thread about offset for 18x8 and he shows a low 30s offset...I hope these would not pose a problem with rubbing the suspension).
The offset should be fine with no rubbing. The only thing is that the rear might be a bit inset.
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Default Re: Re: Racing Hart M6 on GS400 question

Originally posted by Neo
The offset should be fine with no rubbing. The only thing is that the rear might be a bit inset.
even the front is a bit too high too. for reference i am running 8.5 +32, that's same as 8 +26. and if you don't want rubbing, i suggest 8 +32
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Question. The higher the number the more tucked in the wheel is. Or is it the other way around?
Example: Is +44 more tucked in then +32?

It's still confusing to me.

Ed

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm

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Yeah, I guess I know what you guys are right.

The positive offset is too high, which results in jamming the wheels in closer to the suspension.

Rom,

When you said
......that's same as 8 +26. if you don't want rubbing, i suggest 8 +32
What do you mean by rubbing? you mean rubbing the fenders right? Going from a +26 to a +36 will sticks the wheels IN more (closer to the suspension....and further away from the fenders).

The thing is....I don't *think* I want a staggered set up (for rotation purposes)....unless someone here convinces me that tire-life is almost the same regardless whether you rotate or not.

I do like the staggered look, but just worried about uneven wear without rotation (I know I know, I can still rotate if I unmount the tires).

I want a very conservative setup. I don't every want to rub. I plan to drop the car using either Eibach/Bilstein or Tein CS. I don't want to go over 18s since I live in the pothole infested streets of NYC.

What do you guys think is a nice conservative setup? 18x8F and 18x9R?

Thx for the help.
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Originally posted by Cadd
What do you mean by rubbing? you mean rubbing the fenders right? Going from a +26 to a +36 will sticks the wheels IN more (closer to the suspension....and further away from the fenders).
Yes. rominl's setup is pretty agressive. If his 8.5 was 8, he'd be at +26. So to be less aggressive and to not rub, he is suggesting to go with +36. That is already 9mm more aggressive then the L-Tuned wheels which are 18x8f +45.
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the M6 are actually 2pc. i had 18" on my gsr, the only thing i don't like about that one is that the lip is not as nice as the 3pc. it's kinda dull compare to my previous 3pc C5 on my MKIII supra.
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Originally posted by Neo
Yes. rominl's setup is pretty agressive. If his 8.5 was 8, he'd be at +26. So to be less aggressive and to not rub, he is suggesting to go with +36. That is already 9mm more aggressive then the L-Tuned wheels which are 18x8f +45.
Hmmm, so if other GS4 owners have the 18x8 (+45) wheels, I should be fine with 18x8 (+44) right? I guess it'll look better if it's not tucked so in.

What do you guys think? Should I get a staggered setup? 18x9 in the rear? Or will 18x8 all the way around be OK? Will it look funny?

I'm new to wheels & suspension. Any/all advice will be greatly appreciated.

The seller is looking for $1,300. I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. If I'm patient, do you think I can get better wheels/tires (that'll fit better) for $1,300 (used of course)?
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Originally posted by Cadd
Hmmm, so if other GS4 owners have the 18x8 (+45) wheels, I should be fine with 18x8 (+44) right? I guess it'll look better if it's not tucked so in.
The fronts should be fine. The L-Tuned rears, however, are 18x9.5. the 16x8 will be inset into the wheel well. You could also look into rear spacers.
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Originally posted by Neo
The fronts should be fine. The L-Tuned rears, however, are 18x9.5. the 16x8 will be inset into the wheel well. You could also look into rear spacers.
16x8??? Typo? I'm assuming you meant 18x8 right? Yeah, I read debates on spacers here on CL. Some people seem opposed to it while others think they're fine. I don't think I want to go to the spacer route. I rather wait and get something with the correct offset.
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Originally posted by Cadd
16x8??? Typo? I'm assuming you meant 18x8 right? Yeah, I read debates on spacers here on CL. Some people seem opposed to it while others think they're fine. I don't think I want to go to the spacer route. I rather wait and get something with the correct offset.
Sorry about the typo. You assumed correctly. I agree that it is better to get the correct offset if possible. Sometime you don't have a choice though. With most of the discussions, front spacers are the ones in question. The rears are not as bad. As long as you get the ones that comes with attached studs and retain the hub-centricity of the wheels, you should be OK.


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