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Old 07-10-15, 04:06 PM   #16
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Today's flight....

That's what the elbow is for.
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Imagine the fights for the overhead space if they jammed more people in planes
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coming soon: lay on a gurney, a shot of twilight anesthesia and they stack us like cord wood.
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coming soon: lay on a gurney, a shot of twilight anesthesia and they stack us like cord wood.
The only guy to even get close to having the courage to call this what it is. I'm coining the phrase here first....SLAVE-SHIP SEATING.

This idea is preposterous. The additional seats could get more people on the plane but the plane won't be able to accommodate the supplemental carry-on or stow-away luggage, there will inevitably have to be weight restrictions for passengers and the planes' retrofit and increased fuel costs are actually going to trickle down to us and increase ticket prices significantly. People with health issues or babies on planes with this seating arrangement is a whole other story entirely.

And if we as patrons entertain this idea, we do not have the airlines to blame. Letting even the diagram out is a beta test of all of our tolerance.

And to the poster who showed the picture of the FIRST-CLASS opposite seating, this doesn't even relate to this, so stop.
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The only guy to even get close to having the courage to call this what it is. I'm coining the phrase here first....SLAVE-SHIP SEATING.
When reserving a seat, be sure to get one with the short oars, preferably away from the drum. Inflight entertainment at cruising altitude consists of tossing obnoxious drunks, smokers, and shrieking children out the emergency hatch.
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That's brilliant, though. Forget comfort, they just need cargo jets that they can load all the unconscious bodies into.
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A few years ago a couple of discount airlines Ryanair (Europe) and Spring Airlines (China) were considering standing seating . . .



Choose your seating options, business class or coach.

Evidently the big guys in the front office don't think much of us either . . .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/avia...nair-boss.html
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I find this amusing because they narrow the seats little by little and reduce the reclining angles. Passengers are becoming wider to offset those "adjustments".

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...idth/16105491/

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Simply put, the roomiest economy seats you can book on the nation's four largest airlines are narrower than the tightest economy seats offered in the 1990s. The worst seats today measure either 17 or 17.2 inches, when about 19 was as tight as it got through the 1990s. In fact, even the widest seats for sale in economy today—from 17 to 18.5 inches —would not have been offered several years ago. For comparison, up in the front of the cabin, premium class seating on the Big Three usually measures 21 inches.

The big squeeze has become a global problem. Last year the European aircraft maker Airbus suggested all airline seats be at least 18 inches wide, but the U.S. trade organization Airlines for America rejected the suggestion, stating, "We believe individual airlines should be able to determine fleet configurations that best meet their customers' needs, as they do today."

Meanwhile, demographics are moving in the wrong direction. In 2002, CRTL quoted a British ergonomics firm that provided data on human hip sizes worldwide. The result? Yep, the United States ranked first (20.6 inches), ahead of Germany (19.6), Britain (19.1), France (17.2), Japan (15.9) and China (15.6). It seems safe to say such averages have only increased over the last dozen years.
My most comfortable flights even in the sardine seats whave been domestic flights in Japan. Not because the seats were wide, but because generally speaking the passengers there were smallish in stature. No overflowing issues so either of us could use the armrest.
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the japanese petite stature may help on planes, but they have to suffer with coffin hotels.

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Those capsule accommodations are amusing.

The shrinking seat concept may work throughout Asia where passengers tend to be smaller in stature. Come to North America especially and this shrinking seat doesn't translate well for passenger comfort. That's not the airline motivation behind all this. Merely to increase load to yield is increased profits/flight. We already have the baggage surcharges, food fees, etc. LCC's (Low Cost Carriers) we expect this level of sardine-ness.

Local commutes are almost tolerable if sub 2 hours. The whole air travel airport experience at the mass tourist level is a downward spiral. This won't become any better unless one can open the wallet up for business or first class seats.

How was the flight across the pond on your recent trip?
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How was the flight across the pond on your recent trip?
International flights are always roomier so it was fine. I was in so-called 'premium economy' on Virgin and it's very nice.
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and when you have to go to the bathroom, does the seat just come with a pee jar? i see trying to get up and get to the aisle being a huge hassle
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and when you have to go to the bathroom, does the seat just come with a pee jar? i see trying to get up and get to the aisle being a huge hassle
+1 and you'll get the waist high face experience as that passenger wiggles through the seats.
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+1 and you'll get the waist high face experience as that passenger wiggles through the seats.
could be bad, but could be good.
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