Rear Sway Bar
08-21-18, 06:55 PM
#18
Instructor
Personally, I like a full, 4 wheel drift, 50/50 with maybe a first hint of understeer with throttle induced oversteer.
08-22-18, 08:57 AM
#20
Instructor
I'd have a professional alignment shop align it. Mine currently has nearly +5° of caster after I had it aligned for bad inside tire wear I was getting.
Last edited by Knucklebus; 04-16-19 at 10:08 AM.
08-22-18, 05:10 PM
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08-22-18, 06:50 PM
#22
Instructor
Gave up looking. Getting either of the sway bars in/out looks to be a bit of a chore.
Decided to concentrate on getting my tires to wear evenly. I may investigate it in the future by trying stiffer bushings or even try to shorten the existing sway bar ala new mounting hole inboard of the existing one for greater resistance with minimal work.
Decided to concentrate on getting my tires to wear evenly. I may investigate it in the future by trying stiffer bushings or even try to shorten the existing sway bar ala new mounting hole inboard of the existing one for greater resistance with minimal work.
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eddie420 (08-22-18)
10-11-18, 10:16 AM
#23
My HardRace set is on order and should be here and installed in about a month or so. It's approx $550 shipped, I forgot the exact price.
Nigel-JDM also has a set but they are in almost the $800 range, before shipping.
SuperPro also has a 22mm heavy-duty bar that goes for $289. But this is just the REAR and it's not a set. Order at suspension.com
Every place that has it requires it to be special ordered and takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks. I guess there's not enough GS owners that want this.
Nigel-JDM also has a set but they are in almost the $800 range, before shipping.
SuperPro also has a 22mm heavy-duty bar that goes for $289. But this is just the REAR and it's not a set. Order at suspension.com
Every place that has it requires it to be special ordered and takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks. I guess there's not enough GS owners that want this.
As you all know, anti-sway bars are hard to come by for the GS. There are a few importers for other obscure brands but they are very expensive and the importer's reviews were kind of sketchy. The HardRace set can be purchased for about $540 shipped from VelocityShop in Florida. They have great customer service btw. They will need to import them which will take 6-8 weeks. The part number for the front is #7988 and the rear is #8526. You will not find these parts in their catalog -- they are special order only. These will fit all 2013+ GS (excluding AWD). Not sure about the GS-F..
The only thing you need to be aware of is the installation which needs to be discussed with your mechanic beforehand. The installation for the front is straight-forward. On the rear, the book rate calls for almost 10-hours of labor which equates to about $1,000 for labor alone -- using current labor rates in N. CA! This is because the repair manual will call for the entire rear sub-frame to be removed so that the rear-bar could be accessed (it sits on the top of the rear sub-frame and suspension components). My mechanic was able to just lower the sub frame several inches to snake in the rear bar.... which required about 2 hours of labor instead of 10. Just FYI!
I'm glad to be the first(?) to do this and to share my result. Let me know if you guys have any questions!
Last edited by azipod; 10-11-18 at 11:17 AM.
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10-11-18, 10:03 PM
#24
UPDATE: Had the HardRace front and rear anti-sway bar installed on my 2013 GS450h yesterday. The result is fantastic! Aside from having the car now being more balanced and neutral in the turns, the steering itself actually became more "crisp and direct." This by no means transforms the car into a "sports car" but it definitely gives it the added tuning that this car needs. I always felt that my GS450h was too heavy and plows hard into the curves when driven hard.... maybe it's a bit more balanced in stock form for the GS350 since it's several hundred pounds lighter.
As you all know, anti-sway bars are hard to come by for the GS. There are a few importers for other obscure brands but they are very expensive and the importer's reviews were kind of sketchy. The HardRace set can be purchased for about $540 shipped from VelocityShop in Florida. They have great customer service btw. They will need to import them which will take 6-8 weeks. The part number for the front is #7988 and the rear is #8526. You will not find these parts in their catalog -- they are special order only. These will fit all 2013+ GS (excluding AWD). Not sure about the GS-F..
The only thing you need to be aware of is the installation which needs to be discussed with your mechanic beforehand. The installation for the front is straight-forward. On the rear, the book rate calls for almost 10-hours of labor which equates to about $1,000 for labor alone -- using current labor rates in N. CA! This is because the repair manual will call for the entire rear sub-frame to be removed so that the rear-bar could be accessed (it sits on the top of the rear sub-frame and suspension components). My mechanic was able to just lower the sub frame several inches to snake in the rear bar.... which required about 2 hours of labor instead of 10. Just FYI!
I'm glad to be the first(?) to do this and to share my result. Let me know if you guys have any questions!
As you all know, anti-sway bars are hard to come by for the GS. There are a few importers for other obscure brands but they are very expensive and the importer's reviews were kind of sketchy. The HardRace set can be purchased for about $540 shipped from VelocityShop in Florida. They have great customer service btw. They will need to import them which will take 6-8 weeks. The part number for the front is #7988 and the rear is #8526. You will not find these parts in their catalog -- they are special order only. These will fit all 2013+ GS (excluding AWD). Not sure about the GS-F..
The only thing you need to be aware of is the installation which needs to be discussed with your mechanic beforehand. The installation for the front is straight-forward. On the rear, the book rate calls for almost 10-hours of labor which equates to about $1,000 for labor alone -- using current labor rates in N. CA! This is because the repair manual will call for the entire rear sub-frame to be removed so that the rear-bar could be accessed (it sits on the top of the rear sub-frame and suspension components). My mechanic was able to just lower the sub frame several inches to snake in the rear bar.... which required about 2 hours of labor instead of 10. Just FYI!
I'm glad to be the first(?) to do this and to share my result. Let me know if you guys have any questions!
10-12-18, 09:29 AM
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waikai79 (02-07-22)
10-17-18, 12:28 PM
#27
No pictures are available because they were installed by a mechanic at a shop.
There is no real secret to the installation. The sub-frame in the rear just needs to be lowered several inches to snake in the rear bar.. which goes on top of the rear suspension and its components. Just don't go with the service manual that tells you to remove the entire rear sub-frame and its components to get to it.....it's not necessary and too labor intensive at about 10-hours!
There is no real secret to the installation. The sub-frame in the rear just needs to be lowered several inches to snake in the rear bar.. which goes on top of the rear suspension and its components. Just don't go with the service manual that tells you to remove the entire rear sub-frame and its components to get to it.....it's not necessary and too labor intensive at about 10-hours!
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sam430 (10-18-18)
04-16-19, 10:06 AM
#28
No pictures are available because they were installed by a mechanic at a shop.
There is no real secret to the installation. The sub-frame in the rear just needs to be lowered several inches to snake in the rear bar.. which goes on top of the rear suspension and its components. Just don't go with the service manual that tells you to remove the entire rear sub-frame and its components to get to it.....it's not necessary and too labor intensive at about 10-hours!
There is no real secret to the installation. The sub-frame in the rear just needs to be lowered several inches to snake in the rear bar.. which goes on top of the rear suspension and its components. Just don't go with the service manual that tells you to remove the entire rear sub-frame and its components to get to it.....it's not necessary and too labor intensive at about 10-hours!
04-16-19, 10:42 AM
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09-25-19, 07:35 AM
#30
Pole Position
Is there an update to this thread? did anyone every find a reliable sway bar that worked well? Im in a 2015 F-sport RWD.