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Old 07-14-09, 12:33 PM
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yeah if you have apsss for sure the sways won't work. but avs, i am still scratching my head
Old 07-14-09, 04:52 PM
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Darrel has been great for me. Well I have the apsss feature not AVS. But what the documentation says from Lexus it won't work with AVS.

Way I look at it one way to find out for sure

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Old 07-14-09, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by passnu2
Darrel has been great for me. Well I have the apsss feature not AVS. But what the documentation says from Lexus it won't work with AVS.

Way I look at it one way to find out for sure
apsss on g06 s430? i thought it was first available on the gs450h in 2007

if anything i am pretty sure your car has avs (most gs430 has it). if you have the sport/norm button on shift plate (by the side of the seat temp control, then you have avs.

i doubt you have apsss, don't think it was an option at all until 07 450h and now on gs460

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Old 07-14-09, 06:51 PM
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Couldn't tell you? When I first asked you and flipside called it apsss?

Either way I just opened the box and the instructions say 06 + and one thing about avs or anything.

It does note that some 06 models may not have some part but its okay. This gives me hope again.
Old 07-14-09, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by passnu2
Couldn't tell you? When I first asked you and flipside called it apsss?

Either way I just opened the box and the instructions say 06 + and one thing about avs or anything.

It does note that some 06 models may not have some part but its okay. This gives me hope again.
AVS (advanced variable suspension) , controlled by the "Sport" and "Normal" switch, has been standard on '06+ 430's and 460's. However it is an option for the 350 starting in 2009 (according to conceptcarz.com)

The AAPS (advanced active power stabilization) did not become available until 2007 (430 only, not 350). I have an '06 430 manual and there is no mention of it. In US, GS350 has never been offered with AAPS (again, according to conceptcarz.com).

The installation instructions for the GS350 RWD Sway Bar Kit state that the conflicts are GS350AWD and GS350 "equipped with active stabilizer control". Must be that other countries could get GS350's with the AAPS(?). The good news is that it doesn't say that there is a conflict with '09 350's with the AVS.

However, Nowhere does it state that this part is OK for ANY GS4XX.
Old 07-14-09, 11:07 PM
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06 300 No AVS, No **** option
06 430 AVS standard, No **** option
07 350 AVS availabe as an option, no ****
07 430/450h AVS standard, **** optional
08+ 350 AVS optional, no ****
08+ 450h/460 AVS standard, **** optional
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Originally Posted by passnu2
Couldn't tell you? When I first asked you and flipside called it apsss?

Either way I just opened the box and the instructions say 06 + and one thing about avs or anything.

It does note that some 06 models may not have some part but its okay. This gives me hope again.
you probably confused? avs is always about the shock dampening, apsss is always about the sway bars
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Originally Posted by rominl
you probably confused? avs is always about the shock dampening, apsss is always about the sway bars

Nope. There is an old thread in here. I asked about springs vs coils. Everyone said to go with springs.

I called it active suspension guessing what it was called. I was told I had apsss and not to get coils. I'm just going by what guru's called it.

No biggie either way. Now I know what its called. Haha
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The sway bar kit is listed as a 350 part only, and the instructions have 2 peculiarities:
1. in the "conflicts" section (2 listed), one is that it can't be used with "active stabilizer control": perhaps the 350 is offered with AAPS in other markets outside US.
2. the part is listed for 06+ 350's and 350's didn't arrive in US until 07 year model: perhaps the 350 was offered as an 06 year model in other markets outside of US.

It DOESN'T list a conflict for 350's with AVS.

Bottom line--most likely, they don't want to market the part as a 430 or 460 part 'cause they want(ed) you to spend the $3500 on the AAPS.
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Originally Posted by sprintz
The sway bar kit is listed as a 350 part only, and the instructions have 2 peculiarities:
1. in the "conflicts" section (2 listed), one is that it can't be used with "active stabilizer control": perhaps the 350 is offered with AAPS in other markets outside US.
2. the part is listed for 06+ 350's and 350's didn't arrive in US until 07 year model: perhaps the 350 was offered as an 06 year model in other markets outside of US.

It DOESN'T list a conflict for 350's with AVS.

Bottom line--most likely, they don't want to market the part as a 430 or 460 part 'cause they want(ed) you to spend the $3500 on the AAPS.
gs350 was avilable in 06 in japan and i think they also have avs option. maybe that's why (though, they have fsport in japan too?)
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Originally Posted by rominl
gs350 was avilable in 06 in japan and i think they also have avs option. maybe that's why (though, they have fsport in japan too?)
Yes, AVS is even an option in US, but is/was AAPS offered on the 350's in Japan, 'cause it ain't in the US.
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Originally Posted by sprintz
Yes, AVS is even an option in US, but is/was AAPS offered on the 350's in Japan, 'cause it ain't in the US.
According to the specs sheet (the second row), Active Power Stabilizer Suspension System is not available for the GS350 in Japan, either.

Standard for the 450H, optional for the GS460.
Also, GS 450H/460 that have aaps will come with runflat tires.

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Originally Posted by talwang
According to the specs sheet (the second row), Active Power Stabilizer Suspension System is not available for the GS350 in Japan, either.
If AAPS not available for 350's in US or Japan, then it's probably not available anywhere. So then it seems odd to me that they put in the conflicts section "active stabilizer control" when it's listed as a 350 part:

http://www.sewellpartsonline.com/imp...ys_Install.pdf

Oh well, my kit is in and I hope to get it installed tomorrow on my 430!
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Well the bar will work if you have AVS. There is not one thing that is an issue.

I would like to see a pics with the aaps. Can someone with this take a pic and get under your car. I will get as many pics as I can so we can see if and where there may be a hold up.
Old 08-08-09, 04:27 PM
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Finally!!!!!

installed on my 2006 GS430 and there are no noises or issue to report.

HUGE shout out to Darrel at Sewell Lexus for all his emails and help. Darrel was sending me emails on SUNDAY!!! Yes SUNDAY!!!!

So I replaced all end-links and nuts. Did not reuse any of the parts and not sure if this helped or not but I am 100% happy with the 50 miles I just drove the car.


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