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Old 09-16-10, 05:21 PM
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Okay so I recently got a set of 19s and I'm lowered on H&R sports.

I have a question about my ride height.

The previous owner who had these springs seemed like his car was dropped quite a bit more than mine. Just judging from these pictures. My question is if there is anything that could be hindering my car from having a lower ride height after the install. Do I need to reset my bushings? or perhaps the bushings that the springs are seated on aren't aligned properly?

I was under the impression that H&R's offered the lowest ride height out of all the springs.





Comparing my car with Javy's (hope you don't mind I borrowed your pics) when he had H&R's



and the previous owner of my springs my car seems higher.



Any input is much appreciated
Old 09-17-10, 06:28 PM
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Pictures are HUGE!!.

anyways, make sure you had the same tire set up. sometimes bigger tires fill up the fenderwell and it makes the car look lower.

another thing is that maybe he had an IS350 which is a little heavier, making the car lower.

or he preloaded the springs, sometimes that can make them drop a 1/4 inch or so

or he had a really heavy subwoofer on the rear.

it can also be that the pics you posted are photoshoped to make the cars look lower.

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Old 09-18-10, 03:15 AM
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wait. are you saying you didn't reset your bushings after the install? you better do it right now before you ruin your bushings.
Old 09-18-10, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetfire
wait. are you saying you didn't reset your bushings after the install? you better do it right now before you ruin your bushings.
sorry for the stupid question? what is the reset bushings? what part is it, and how do you reset them? thanks
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Originally Posted by Jetfire
wait. are you saying you didn't reset your bushings after the install? you better do it right now before you ruin your bushings.
Going to be doing it today, could you inform me a bit on how to reset the bushings in the rear? I'm familiar with the procedure for the front
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The drop up front looks perfect IMO, just the rear that needs to go down. Hope you figure it out!
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check your tire set up compared to the guys on the pics. I changed from a 30 profile to a 35 profile tire and with 35 profile tire the fender gets filled up more and looks way lower
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Looks like the white car has bigger tires. also how long has it been since u dropped? maybe the springs will settle
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Springs don't settle. Bushings finally give up their resistance when the guy doing the suspension install doesn't know how to set up them up for neutral after the drop.

Springs don't settle.

Camber less than -2.5 degrees does not wear out your tires.
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Your right they don't settle BUT they will sag. Most will sag 5mm the frist year and no more than 8-10mm over the life.
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Yeah javy does have bigger tires in those pics, but I'm going off the distance between the edge of the wheel and the fender. My gap in the rear seems larger.

I also reset my bushings the other day but it didn't seem to help with the ride height. I'll probably take apart the rear assembly and make sure the bushing between the shock tower and spring is positioned properly.

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Old 09-22-10, 05:12 PM
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Just cut the rear spring? If you want it lower for looks that is. I thought you were on coils?
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Hey lobux. How long would the bushings last if they were not reset after a drop?
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Originally Posted by mahcah
Hey lobux. How long would the bushings last if they were not reset after a drop?
Hard to say. The thing they will be right away is softer. Better for ride if you like smooth, but worse for performance and holding alignment.
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btw i just had my car lowered on eibach pro springs in a reputable shop and i mentioned the bushings thing to the guy and he said didnt need to do anything to em....so either im retarded or some1 else is lol.


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