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Old 10-15-07, 11:24 PM
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Default New to Lexus: Brakes seem soft or do I have a problem?

Hi all

I just got a 1998 GS400 and the brakes worry me a little bit. Before I bought the car, it got a clean bill of health from a Lexus mechanic.

But when I drive it, the brakes seem soft (lots of pedal travel and not much stopping power until the end where the brakes grab fairly hard). The brake pedal is also fairly slow to return to the normal position after I press on it hard.

I am wondering if this is just how the stock brakes feel and work or if I might have an issue (air in the brake lines)?

Is there a way to test the brakes without going to a mechanic?

Thanks in advance!
Old 10-15-07, 11:37 PM
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Sadly, that's the way the OEM GS brakes are. When you need to stop, the GS brakes are some of the best in the world. The problem is the mushy feel and no real brake bite for the first inch or two of pedal travel.

need a cure for it? Convert the front brakes to the Supra TT setup. The disc is bigger, and the caliper has 4 pistons instead of the GS' 2 pistons.
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You might be low on pads, thats how mine was when my pads were wearing thin.
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How much would that cost?
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what the pads or the bbk kit? the pads arent that much around 60 for the front call your local dealer
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Default Supra TT kit

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what the pads or the bbk kit? the pads arent that much around 60 for the front call your local dealer
Sorry, the price for the Supra TT brake kit
Old 10-16-07, 02:10 PM
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I've got a TT setup in the front with Rotora slotted rotors... ATE fluid.. Hawk HPS pads... Goodridge SS lines...

I must say that the pedal is extremely firm.. It is a great feeling. I don't regret spending the $$ at all.
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You can put the parts together the parts for the Supra TT front brakes for around $600. Re-man calipers are available, Rotora Slotted Rotors would be my choice, Rotora coated SS lines (currently using), and a good ceramic pad (Akebono Euro ceramic was recently reccomended to me, I have Axxis Ultimates right now).

Best first step though is Stainless lines and a ceramic pad. Try that and see if you want more later. I think you'll need an 18in. wheel to clear the TT caliper.
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Originally Posted by Lexamatic
You can put the parts together the parts for the Supra TT front brakes for around $600. Re-man calipers are available, Rotora Slotted Rotors would be my choice, Rotora coated SS lines (currently using), and a good ceramic pad (Akebono Euro ceramic was recently reccomended to me, I have Axxis Ultimates right now).

Best first step though is Stainless lines and a ceramic pad. Try that and see if you want more later. I think you'll need an 18in. wheel to clear the TT caliper.
What do the stainless steel lines do?
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^gives the pedal a firmer feel
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Originally Posted by marshun
^gives the pedal a firmer feel
stock rubber lines expand a bit when you hit the pedal, stainless steel lines don't, so the pedal travels less before the pads bite. Rotora makes lines that have a plastic coating on them to protect the line.
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Originally Posted by Lexamatic
stock rubber lines expand a bit when you hit the pedal, stainless steel lines don't, so the pedal travels less before the pads bite. Rotora makes lines that have a plastic coating on them to protect the line.
Thanks for the info!

Lines and pads + labor would run how much...?
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Lines are about $100. Pads are about $60-70.

Labor should be about 1-1.5 hours.
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axxis ultimates brake pads sounds like what you're looking for if you can deal with brake dust
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Originally Posted by Lexamatic
stock rubber lines expand a bit when you hit the pedal, stainless steel lines don't, so the pedal travels less before the pads bite. Rotora makes lines that have a plastic coating on them to protect the line.
and you even took the time to explain the "why" part.

sorry i didnt. i get lazy when i type


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