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Old 04-22-19, 06:42 AM
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Default Tesla Model S Battery explodes in Shanghai

A Model S battery explosion was caught yesterday, on video, in a Shanghai garage. The explosion and fire happens around 1:20 on the video.

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wow. at 3m in you have a close-up of the smoke first, then the fire.
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That sucks even more for the Audi parked next to it. Curious what the root cause was.
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The scary part is the time between the more noticeable smoke (symptom) and the explosion is a mere seconds. Thankfully no one was in the car or in the vicinity.

This is not the first occasion Teslas catch fire, although it still is very rare. Anyone know how this compares to the risk of ICE vehicles suddenly catching fire stationary or while driving (not in an accident)?
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Tesla should use its self driving abilities and drive of off a cliff or into a lake in case of fire.
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It happened in China, they probably used a chinese made low quality charger that overcharged the battery.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
Anyone know how this compares to the risk of ICE vehicles suddenly catching fire stationary or while driving (not in an accident)?
Hard to find stats the articles I found were cherry picked incidents (like this one) not actual statistics. Hyundai/Kia right now has a fairly serious issue with vehicle fires.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened new investigations into fires in five Hyundai and its affiliate Kia vehicle models, following reports of thousands of fires and more than 100 injuries and one death. Altogether, the agency and the pair of South Korea-based vehicle manufacturers have received 3,125 reports of fires that were not sparked by a collision
mmarshall won't be making a thread about Hyundai/ Kia fires anytime soon because they aren't caused primarily by a big scary battery. Vehicle fires are unfortunately quite common
Each year, from 2014 to 2016, an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss.
If you want to know what actually causes vehicle fires
Forty-six percent of the items first ignited in highway vehicle fires fell under the category of “general materials” (Figure 5).12 This category includes materials such as tires, insulation around electric wire and cables, trash, and fabric. Specifically, insulation around the electrical wiring or other cables was the most common item to initially ignite, not only within this category but in all highway vehicle fires (29 percent). While it is often assumed that vehicle fires commonly originate with the tires of the vehicle, tires were the item first ignited in only 6 percent of all highway vehicle fires. The second leading category of items first ignited was “liquids, piping, filters” (26 percent). This category primarily includes fuel in various locations in the vehicle. Due to its combustibility, fuel from the engine area was the leading specific item first ignited within this category and was the second most common specific item first ignited in highway vehicle fires overall (18 percent). In general, flammable liquids and gases accounted for 24 percent of items first ignited.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
This is not the first occasion Teslas catch fire, although it still is very rare. Anyone know how this compares to the risk of ICE vehicles suddenly catching fire stationary or while driving (not in an accident)?
ICE fires are not as rare as a lot of people think. One of my ex-neighbors had owned a Toyota Tundra that was only a couple of years old (he did a lot of hunting and fishing). It went up, with no warning, like a Roman Candle, on the D.C.Beltway one day. He was able to stop, get out in time, and received only minor burns.

What is surprising, though, is that he liked that truck so much that he used the insurance-settlement money to replace it with one that was identical. The insurance company, independent of Toyota, did an investigation, and found that three Tacomas had gone up like tat, and they all could be traced to the dealership my neighbor used, so it's hard to tell if it was a factory defect by co-incidence, carelessness in the ssevice-bay, or maybe sabotage by a disgruntled dealer employee.
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Old 04-22-19, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
mmarshall won't be making a thread about Hyundai/ Kia fires anytime soon.
Well, there's a lot of people in Car Chat. If I don't, someone else might.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, there's a lot of people in Car Chat. If I don't, someone else might.
Why do you feel this fire is noteworthy compared to the thousands of other vehicle fires?
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Why do you feel this fire is noteworthy compared to the thousands of other vehicle fires?
Well, two things. First, perhaps more of the others should have indeed been posted, but were not always caught on video. Second, too many people, IMO, seem to think that Tesla is the divine answer to all of the ICE's problems. In truth, the technology has not been perfected.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, two things. First, perhaps more of the others should have indeed been posted, but were not always caught on video.
I've seen quite a few.
Second, too many people, IMO, seem to think that Tesla is the divine answer to all of the ICE's problems.
I don't think that and don't know anyone else that does. For example?
In truth, the technology has not been perfected.
What about petrol powered cars are they perfected?
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
I've seen quite a few.

I don't think that and don't know anyone else that does. For example?
I live in an area (NoVA/ DC Suburbs) where Teslas are extremely popular.

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Originally Posted by Och
It happened in China, they probably used a chinese made low quality charger that overcharged the battery.
So a bad quality charger (that doesn't have an automatic shut off) can cause any ev vehicles to ignite like this?
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That was a really cool explosion I would guess that the driver damaged the battery pack somehow (bottomed out, ran something over, etc) and it took some time for it to blow
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