GS-F much better/cost effective vs,...
03-16-19, 08:45 AM
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GS-F much better/cost effective vs,...
After test driving a few used 2016 GS-Fs, I bit the bullet for 4 reasons:
1. The upgraded mechanical/interior/exterior/performance features are very nice—but far less $$ than upgrading my F-Sport by adding accessories.
2. Found a ‘16 GS-F with mid 30k miles, single owner lease return, extended warranty—for high $40s. Compare that with the price of aftermarket add ons.
3. V8 exhaust in the F (no droning at any rev point, but great sound).
4. I wanted more HP, as several on the board know. To each his own. If I were to spend $10k and up—it wasn’t going to be for a bolt on supercharger with bugs galore, vs a thoroughly vetted stock and warranties setup. Time/effort/labor/engineering by Lexus—seems a better call.
NOTE: I am trading in my 15 F Sport for a 16 GS F. Two pics—my traded in 15 F Sport and my new to me 16 F (silver is my color). Once it arrives on Wed-Thu, will post. First stop—tint.
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03-16-19, 09:13 AM
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Congrats!!! After you’ve been in the car for a month or two, give us an update on how the ride, handling, etc are comparing/feel to the 350. I’d love the V8 but wonder if for day to day it would be too stiff, etc.
03-16-19, 09:57 AM
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Congrats on the GS F! I completely agree with your assessment about the value proposition. Lots of time and energy would be needed to get an F-Sport to be "closer" to a GS F. As enthusiasts, we sometimes like the idea of working on our cars, adding new things, etc but for a real power upgrade without headache, what you did is a smart choice.
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
03-16-19, 10:31 AM
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Congrats on the GS F! I completely agree with your assessment about the value proposition. Lots of time and energy would be needed to get an F-Sport to be "closer" to a GS F. As enthusiasts, we sometimes like the idea of working on our cars, adding new things, etc but for a real power upgrade without headache, what you did is a smart choice.
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
03-16-19, 10:47 AM
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I posted something similar to this thread a few months ago. Basically GSF > F Sport with RR SC. Who wants to dump $10K into something full of bugs and headaches. Prices have come down a bit on '16 GSF where it makes since now to move up. You can easily get 500HP by adding a catback exhaust to your F. So much more potential then moddin' a F Sport. Congrats 👍
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03-16-19, 02:44 PM
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KAH (03-16-19)
03-16-19, 04:36 PM
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03-16-19, 04:43 PM
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I am in a similar boat. I have a 2015 gs 350 f-sport with 23k miles and am thinking about trading this in for. 2016/17 gs f. If you don’t mind sharing , can you share the number $$ that you paid on the upgrade. ?
03-16-19, 05:12 PM
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Congrats!
I looked at getting a used GS F, but I had a hard time getting past the fact that the 2016 didn't have AVS, and the US model excludes things like a heated steering wheel, rear sunshade, etc. That glorious V8, though...
I looked at getting a used GS F, but I had a hard time getting past the fact that the 2016 didn't have AVS, and the US model excludes things like a heated steering wheel, rear sunshade, etc. That glorious V8, though...
03-16-19, 05:26 PM
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Congrats on the GS F! I completely agree with your assessment about the value proposition. Lots of time and energy would be needed to get an F-Sport to be "closer" to a GS F. As enthusiasts, we sometimes like the idea of working on our cars, adding new things, etc but for a real power upgrade without headache, what you did is a smart choice.
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
Curious to know about how different your MPG is with the GS F and general ride characteristics compared to your F-Sport. Enjoy and great choice
I test drove an F at my local dealership while my F-Sport was in for routine service, and that pretty much ruined it for me. I was done.
The ride was firmer, but everything else was to put it mildly—better. I am old school, and do like the sound of a V8. That made a difference.
Candidly, my F-Sport wasn’t exactly fuel efficient at 20-22mpg on my commute. Adding a supercharger would have made it worse. V8 engine won’t be much worse. My commute also is only from suburbs to office (30 miles round trip).
I bought mine sight unseen from out of state, but respect the seller/dealer. Once it arrives, I’ll post pics and better impressions.
03-16-19, 05:50 PM
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PM me please
NOTE: Personally I believe that some people prefer aftermarket and some people prefer to spend money to upgrade stock. Not a debate. I also saw how much trouble PilotX went through to get his car to run. I trust Lexus engineering over PilotX and his compadres. I prefer my learning disability over PilotX and his brilliance.
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03-16-19, 06:14 PM
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Son, you are learning disabled
For parts, if you go with the SC, boost gauge, headers, mid-pipe, exhaust it comes in close to $9K. These are prices available from RR’s website or in some cases you can get things off Amazon, like axle back exhausts or boost gauges. I added water-meth, which added another ~$1650 (not necessary) to the job as well as some tuning issues initially. That is before labor to install everything. The SC install was quoted at about $1700. My final cost was somewhere around $100/hp but if you turn some wrenches, especially on the header/exhaust install it comes down a bit to maybe $80/hp.
Numbers aside, a few years ago I had my *** handed to me driving an S5 (4.2l V8) by an A4 with an ECU flash and little else. Sure I had linear power but I lost a lot due to altitude. Now I am pushing 8+ inches of boost (currently limited to 0 inches when my GF is in the car) and the car is phenomenal and pulls hard. It ain’t a corvette, it is Lexus but I spanked am S6 (older one with the V10) because I could. Sure a bit louder and less refined but damn this car is fast now. I’ll find me a GS-F to play with but no takers thus far.
I don’t live in the “Fast and Furious” world that you do.
I enjoy working on cars, but in this case—I believe you have the learning disability son.
$10k-20k is better spent on factory hardware.
I believe that any car enthusiast—whether they enjoy wrenching or not, has a budget.
I believe that OEMs do a better job when it comes to the F-Sport vs. F.
Don’t drive too fast and hurt yourself or anyone else.
Last edited by KAH; 03-16-19 at 06:21 PM.