Review of a loaner Lexus while my GS is in the shop
#1
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Review of a loaner Lexus while my GS is in the shop
My GS is in the shop getting the sunroof problem fixed. Anyways I usually get a RX350 whenever my GS is in the shop however I got a 2017 NX200t(Luxury) (20,000kms on the ODO) since there were no RX350's left.This is my take on the loaner (as Ive never driven the NX200t before)
I didn't notice how big of a difference the quality is until today in terms of the GS and NX200t ( I know they are two very different vehicles and likewise priced accordingly). Honestly I don't like the interior of this vehicle at all, the screen in the car is tiny and looks very cheap,there is no heated seats or ventilated seats, no heated steering wheel, the passenger front seat rattles like crazy (unless i am imagining something and its actually coming from the sunroof that would mean the GS is not the only Lexus vehicle to suffer from this problem), upon acceleration the car vibrates pretty bad (not sure if its just because this rental has been abused or because there's something up with the turbos). I do like the rear exterior lights (looks unique) and the seats aren't bad either. It also drives decently and smoothly and the suspension is very soft and nice you don't feel anything over bumps. But in all honesty I don't think this is a good purchase and definitely not if you are looking to buy it new. I prefer the Acura RDX to this vehicle and would even go as far as to say the Mazda CX (although not a luxury vehicle is a better "bang for your buck").
I personally would never purchase this vehicle but this is my personal opinion so i hope no one that owns this vehicle is offended as I don't mean to offend anyone. Anyways I know that this is the GS forum but thought I'd just give my take on the NX200t loaner, moral of the story i need my GS back asap LOL.
Thanks for reading
I didn't notice how big of a difference the quality is until today in terms of the GS and NX200t ( I know they are two very different vehicles and likewise priced accordingly). Honestly I don't like the interior of this vehicle at all, the screen in the car is tiny and looks very cheap,there is no heated seats or ventilated seats, no heated steering wheel, the passenger front seat rattles like crazy (unless i am imagining something and its actually coming from the sunroof that would mean the GS is not the only Lexus vehicle to suffer from this problem), upon acceleration the car vibrates pretty bad (not sure if its just because this rental has been abused or because there's something up with the turbos). I do like the rear exterior lights (looks unique) and the seats aren't bad either. It also drives decently and smoothly and the suspension is very soft and nice you don't feel anything over bumps. But in all honesty I don't think this is a good purchase and definitely not if you are looking to buy it new. I prefer the Acura RDX to this vehicle and would even go as far as to say the Mazda CX (although not a luxury vehicle is a better "bang for your buck").
I personally would never purchase this vehicle but this is my personal opinion so i hope no one that owns this vehicle is offended as I don't mean to offend anyone. Anyways I know that this is the GS forum but thought I'd just give my take on the NX200t loaner, moral of the story i need my GS back asap LOL.
Thanks for reading
Last edited by gs350lex; 01-19-19 at 03:05 PM.
#2
Lexus Test Driver
I had gotten an NX once and I hated it as well. Recently had a 2019 ES (non-F Sport) and I enjoyed that drive much more, really do want to try a drive in the F-Sport. Got an RX350L once, brand new <20 miles on the odo, and was impressed by the car despite the useless 3rd row. Still everything pales in comparison to my GS!
Whenever I go to the dealer I usually request an RC350 or their GS/LS (only have one of each in their active fleet). I have yet to get the LS but I'm sure I will at some point. I do enjoy having a low volume, privately owned dealership nearby now!
Whenever I go to the dealer I usually request an RC350 or their GS/LS (only have one of each in their active fleet). I have yet to get the LS but I'm sure I will at some point. I do enjoy having a low volume, privately owned dealership nearby now!
#3
Lexus Champion
I know option packages are different in Canada, but I've never seen an NX without heated/ventilated seats. Here they come, like most Lexus products, in the premium package, which is included on the Luxury trim.
Very, very true that the interior cannot compare to the GS, and having a little time in an NX (or something similar) can really highlight how wonderful the GS interior really is. However, I had an NX loaner for a week and thoroughly enjoyed it. The one I had was low mileage, with not rattles, vibrations, etc. I had a lot of fun driving it around for that week and I found the quality and design to be mostly appropriate for the price.
You'll be happy when you get your GS back!
Very, very true that the interior cannot compare to the GS, and having a little time in an NX (or something similar) can really highlight how wonderful the GS interior really is. However, I had an NX loaner for a week and thoroughly enjoyed it. The one I had was low mileage, with not rattles, vibrations, etc. I had a lot of fun driving it around for that week and I found the quality and design to be mostly appropriate for the price.
You'll be happy when you get your GS back!
#4
Pole Position
I had one as a loaner a while back and didn't mind it. I think it's perfect for the younger crowd and was impressed for what it was. I don't even know why one would compare it to a GS. I thought the quality was very good for that type of vehicle. It's all about Lexus quality and reliability and there's obviously a market for that model.
#5
I had my 2015 GS F-Sport in the shop earlier this week to get my rear door panel replaced (warranty) and had a 2018 GS350 Luxury model loaner for a couple of days and I was shocked and noticed what a huge difference the drive, overall feel and steering was on that car had compared to the F-Sport variant. The 2018 GS350 luxury loaner I had was loaded and beautiful inside but the ride was dare I say boring, bland and nowhere near as solid feeling as my 2015, in fact it felt like an entire different car altogether. To my surprise I honestly didn't think there would be a difference between these trims but the steering was incredibly light, the suspension was soft and the transmission seemed to be in too high of a gear and just didn't handle well plus overall driving dynamics and steering felt very artificial and well Lexus plush like. Even before I purchased my GS I never even bothered drive testing a non F-Sport GS because I simply liked the look of the F-Sport model more and had I test driven a luxury/base non F-Sport GS when I was in the hunt for a car, I probably would have never owned my current GS, thank God I drove only F-Sport models first. I understand there was a life cycle change in 2016+ models and maybe something changed in the suspension and steering, in fact I didn't think there would be a significant amount of difference between the two models but I was wrong. To those owners out there with non F-Sport GS models is there a difference, what changed or perhaps that is how these two different trim levels are suppose to behave...thoughts?
Last edited by HontoKuro; 01-17-19 at 11:21 AM. Reason: grammar
#6
Lexus Champion
I had my 2015 GS F-Sport in the shop earlier this week to get my rear door panel replaced (warranty) and had a 2018 GS350 Luxury model loaner for a couple of days and I was shocked and noticed what a huge difference the drive, overall feel and steering was on that car had compared to the F-Sport variant.
Last edited by JDR76; 01-17-19 at 09:06 AM.
#7
Lead Lap
OP: The NX is definitely on the lower-end of the spectrum when it comes to Lexus's category of offerings. The comparable sedan would be the IS. If you sat in an IS300 with the 241hp turbo and then a GS350, you'd probably feel the same way about the layout, the quality, the drivetrain, etc.
The NX is pretty heavy as well at almost 4,000 lbs it seems like it lacks power but competitors in the segment offer similar turbo 4's thus Lexus went with a turbo as well! That new turbo isn't exactly their most proven drivetrain for an SUV (or even a Sedan for that matter actually). The V6 in the GS has been around for a while and is one of the better engines in the lineup as they've iteratively refined/improved it over the years.
The NX appeals to folks that likely aren't enthusiasts or care much about fit/finish...spend a little time away from your GS and you're sure to remember how awesome it is once you get back in it!
The NX is pretty heavy as well at almost 4,000 lbs it seems like it lacks power but competitors in the segment offer similar turbo 4's thus Lexus went with a turbo as well! That new turbo isn't exactly their most proven drivetrain for an SUV (or even a Sedan for that matter actually). The V6 in the GS has been around for a while and is one of the better engines in the lineup as they've iteratively refined/improved it over the years.
The NX appeals to folks that likely aren't enthusiasts or care much about fit/finish...spend a little time away from your GS and you're sure to remember how awesome it is once you get back in it!
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#8
Pit Crew
I actually have both a 2015 NX 200t and a 2017 GS 350 F sport. The GS is definitely the more luxury of the two. While the fit and finish of the NX is quite good on the exteriof, the interior of the NX is what lets it down with some cheap plastics on the dash and other interior bits. And that haptic feedback for the info system sucks. It is by no means slow, but has a bipolar personality when the turbo kicks in. I have had zero problems with both cars.
#9
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Thread Starter
I know option packages are different in Canada, but I've never seen an NX without heated/ventilated seats. Here they come, like most Lexus products, in the premium package, which is included on the Luxury trim.
Very, very true that the interior cannot compare to the GS, and having a little time in an NX (or something similar) can really highlight how wonderful the GS interior really is. However, I had an NX loaner for a week and thoroughly enjoyed it. The one I had was low mileage, with not rattles, vibrations, etc. I had a lot of fun driving it around for that week and I found the quality and design to be mostly appropriate for the price.
You'll be happy when you get your GS back!
Very, very true that the interior cannot compare to the GS, and having a little time in an NX (or something similar) can really highlight how wonderful the GS interior really is. However, I had an NX loaner for a week and thoroughly enjoyed it. The one I had was low mileage, with not rattles, vibrations, etc. I had a lot of fun driving it around for that week and I found the quality and design to be mostly appropriate for the price.
You'll be happy when you get your GS back!
#10
Intermediate
Thread Starter
OP: The NX is definitely on the lower-end of the spectrum when it comes to Lexus's category of offerings. The comparable sedan would be the IS. If you sat in an IS300 with the 241hp turbo and then a GS350, you'd probably feel the same way about the layout, the quality, the drivetrain, etc.
The NX is pretty heavy as well at almost 4,000 lbs it seems like it lacks power but competitors in the segment offer similar turbo 4's thus Lexus went with a turbo as well! That new turbo isn't exactly their most proven drivetrain for an SUV (or even a Sedan for that matter actually). The V6 in the GS has been around for a while and is one of the better engines in the lineup as they've iteratively refined/improved it over the years.
The NX appeals to folks that likely aren't enthusiasts or care much about fit/finish...spend a little time away from your GS and you're sure to remember how awesome it is once you get back in it!
The NX is pretty heavy as well at almost 4,000 lbs it seems like it lacks power but competitors in the segment offer similar turbo 4's thus Lexus went with a turbo as well! That new turbo isn't exactly their most proven drivetrain for an SUV (or even a Sedan for that matter actually). The V6 in the GS has been around for a while and is one of the better engines in the lineup as they've iteratively refined/improved it over the years.
The NX appeals to folks that likely aren't enthusiasts or care much about fit/finish...spend a little time away from your GS and you're sure to remember how awesome it is once you get back in it!
#11
Intermediate
Thread Starter
I actually have both a 2015 NX 200t and a 2017 GS 350 F sport. The GS is definitely the more luxury of the two. While the fit and finish of the NX is quite good on the exteriof, the interior of the NX is what lets it down with some cheap plastics on the dash and other interior bits. And that haptic feedback for the info system sucks. It is by no means slow, but has a bipolar personality when the turbo kicks in. I have had zero problems with both cars.
#12
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Thread Starter
I had my 2015 GS F-Sport in the shop earlier this week to get my rear door panel replaced (warranty) and had a 2018 GS350 Luxury model loaner for a couple of days and I was shocked and noticed what a huge difference the drive, overall feel and steering was on that car had compared to the F-Sport variant. The 2018 GS350 luxury loaner I had was loaded and beautiful inside but the ride was dare I say boring, bland and nowhere near as solid feeling as my 2015, in fact it felt like an entire different car altogether. To my surprise I honestly didn't think there would be a difference between these trims but the steering was incredibly light, the suspension was soft and the transmission seemed to be in too high of a gear and just didn't handle well plus overall driving dynamics and steering felt very artificial and well Lexus plush like. Even before I purchased my GS I never even bothered drive testing a non F-Sport GS because I simply liked the look of the F-Sport model more and had I test driven a luxury/base non F-Sport GS when I was in the hunt for a car, I probably would have never owned my current GS, thank God I drove only F-Sport models first. I understand there was a life cycle change in 2016+ models and maybe something changed in the suspension and steering, in fact I didn't think there would be a significant amount of difference between the two models but I was wrong. To those owners out there with non F-Sport GS models is there a difference, what changed or perhaps that is how these two different trim levels are suppose to behave...thoughts?
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I had one as a loaner a while back and didn't mind it. I think it's perfect for the younger crowd and was impressed for what it was. I don't even know why one would compare it to a GS. I thought the quality was very good for that type of vehicle. It's all about Lexus quality and reliability and there's obviously a market for that model.
#14
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Thread Starter
I had gotten an NX once and I hated it as well. Recently had a 2019 ES (non-F Sport) and I enjoyed that drive much more, really do want to try a drive in the F-Sport. Got an RX350L once, brand new <20 miles on the odo, and was impressed by the car despite the useless 3rd row. Still everything pales in comparison to my GS!
Whenever I go to the dealer I usually request an RC350 or their GS/LS (only have one of each in their active fleet). I have yet to get the LS but I'm sure I will at some point. I do enjoy having a low volume, privately owned dealership nearby now!
Whenever I go to the dealer I usually request an RC350 or their GS/LS (only have one of each in their active fleet). I have yet to get the LS but I'm sure I will at some point. I do enjoy having a low volume, privately owned dealership nearby now!
#15
Intermediate
I had my 2015 GS F-Sport in the shop earlier this week to get my rear door panel replaced (warranty) and had a 2018 GS350 Luxury model loaner for a couple of days and I was shocked and noticed what a huge difference the drive, overall feel and steering was on that car had compared to the F-Sport variant. The 2018 GS350 luxury loaner I had was loaded and beautiful inside but the ride was dare I say boring, bland and nowhere near as solid feeling as my 2015, in fact it felt like an entire different car altogether. To my surprise I honestly didn't think there would be a difference between these trims but the steering was incredibly light, the suspension was soft and the transmission seemed to be in too high of a gear and just didn't handle well plus overall driving dynamics and steering felt very artificial and well Lexus plush like. Even before I purchased my GS I never even bothered drive testing a non F-Sport GS because I simply liked the look of the F-Sport model more and had I test driven a luxury/base non F-Sport GS when I was in the hunt for a car, I probably would have never owned my current GS, thank God I drove only F-Sport models first. I understand there was a life cycle change in 2016+ models and maybe something changed in the suspension and steering, in fact I didn't think there would be a significant amount of difference between the two models but I was wrong. To those owners out there with non F-Sport GS models is there a difference, what changed or perhaps that is how these two different trim levels are suppose to behave...thoughts?
This is all beginning to make sense. A number of times in this forum, some members owning 4GS (with no Sport+ mode) have said that the steering feels heavier in Sport mode than in Eco/Normal but I could never feel any difference in steering in my 2016 GS (with no Sport+ mode) between Eco/Normal and Sport modes. bclexus has shared a chart from Lexus showing the steering changes in Sport mode. It is possible that the difference in steering feel between Eco/Normal and Sport modes occurs only in 2013-2015 GS models and not in 2016+ models. Like HontoKuro, I too feel the steering is too light in all three modes in my 2016 GS (with no Sport+ mode). In fact, the steering in my 2009 Maxima was clearly heavier and it only had one mode.
Last edited by bb700092; 01-17-19 at 09:14 PM.