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Old 11-18-18, 09:40 AM
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Default Would you support some sort of automated ticketing?

Before you say no let's look at a few scenarios...

if your can knows you ran a red light or stop sign, like not even slowing much...
if your car knows your speed is 50% or more over the speed limit...
if you're parked illegally
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personally i think a car SHOULD turn you in for crazy speed. the other scenarios are debatable to me.
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Absolutely. Most drivers are entitled morons and shouldnt even be on the road. I welcome speed and red light cameras, and would support automated ticketing.
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Slippery slope on steroids, hell no.
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I think that far more important than moving-violation snitchers would be to have alcohol-detectors that can tell when the driver has been drinking and disable the starter and ignition system, preventing the car from being on the road in the first place. There are devices that can do that now, but, as I understand it, they can only be installed by a court-order. I'd like to see them standard....or at least more widespread than they are now. DWI is a serious problem....and too many drivers are able to evade the system and not get caught.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Before you say no let's look at a few scenarios...

if your can knows you ran a red light or stop sign, like not even slowing much...
if your car knows your speed is 50% or more over the speed limit...
if you're parked illegally
...

personally i think a car SHOULD turn you in for crazy speed. the other scenarios are debatable to me.
I have no problem with any of this.

I would say limit cars to 70mph or 75.
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I would have no problems with the speeding idea provided the speed limits were set sensibly, the tolerance was reasonable AND it wasn't laughably easy to get a driving license.

To my mind a 65 limit for most freeways is at least 10 to 15 MPH under what would be a reasonable limit. US freeways tend to be long, straight and wide. Perfectly safe at 80/85 or even 90. Provided, of course, drivers don't weave in or out, know that when they merge they must be at sensible speeds, that they must use their signals and that they must follow sensible lane discipline - keep right unless you're passing.

Which is the reason why we also need proper driving tests which don't award driving licenses like participation medals.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I think that far more important than moving-violation snitchers would be to have alcohol-detectors that can tell when the driver has been drinking and disable the starter and ignition system, preventing the car from being on the road in the first place. There are devices that can do that now, but, as I understand it, they can only be installed by a court-order. I'd like to see them standard....or at least more widespread than they are now. DWI is a serious problem....and too many drivers are able to evade the system and not get caught.
i believe this is the wrong approach. While dwi is terrible, alcohol is not the only cause (pills, pot, etc). Heck, sleep deprivation and of course distracted driving are at least as dangerous. So if the car detected weaving, drifting out of lanes constantly, etc., perhaps the car could emit warnings that if repeatedly ignored would then cause the car to turn you in.


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By all means let's have Big Brother watch over all of us Little Sheep, for our own good.
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Originally Posted by Och
Absolutely. Most drivers are entitled morons and shouldnt even be on the road. I welcome speed and red light cameras, and would support automated ticketing.
agree 100% with this!!! most drivers are idiots...!



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Originally Posted by bitkahuna


i believe this is the wrong approach. While dwi is terrible, alcohol is not the only cause (pills, pot, etc). Heck, sleep deprivation and of course distracted driving are at least as dangerous. So if the car detected weaving, drifting out of lanes constantly, etc., perhaps the car could emit warnings that if repeatedly ignored would then cause the car to turn you in.


If my car is a snitch I will have it wacked....
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i believe this is the wrong approach. While dwi is terrible, alcohol is not the only cause (pills, pot, etc). Heck, sleep deprivation and of course distracted driving are at least as dangerous. So if the car detected weaving, drifting out of lanes constantly, etc., perhaps the car could emit warnings that if repeatedly ignored would then cause the car to turn you in.
Oh, yes, I fully agree that other drugs are often as bad if not worse than alcohol. It's much harder, though, to detect the use of them inside a vehicle by sensors, because alcohol breath leaves a distinctive smell that is easily detected. Many other drugs don't. Tobacco, of course, does leave a smell, but its use is legal (there is no such thing as a legal tobacco overdose, as long as one is 18 to 21 years old, wherever the state law is). And, while pot also leaves a smell, its use is also either legal or decriminalized in some states, though, unlike tobacco, pot can affect the mind more and actually affect driving.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I would say limit cars to 70mph or 75.
just kill me now if that ever happened
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I think that far more important than moving-violation snitchers would be to have alcohol-detectors that can tell when the driver has been drinking and disable the starter and ignition system, preventing the car from being on the road in the first place. There are devices that can do that now, but, as I understand it, they can only be installed by a court-order. I'd like to see them standard....or at least more widespread than they are now. DWI is a serious problem....and too many drivers are able to evade the system and not get caught.
While you are not wrong in your suggestion, but why should a person who does not drink or does not drink and drive have to pay for such a device? Just drives costs up.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
but why should a person who does not drink or does not drink and drive have to pay for such a device? Just drives costs up.
Nothing new there. I don't drink myself (been a teetotaler most of my adult life). But, as a society, we're already paying for the huge cost of DWI in taxes, the cost of running prisons for those serving time, lawyer-fees for the court-appointed lawyers who defend those charged, health-insurance and auto-insurance premiums for the treatment of DWI accident-victims and accident repair, funds to support Detox/Alcohol-Rehabilitation programs, the cost of civil-lawsuits and jury-settlements involved, and a number of other problems. As much as we may dislike it, money does not grow on trees, and sometimes one has to take a little from Peter to pay Paul.
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Old 11-18-18, 04:23 PM
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Who was it on this forum or elsewhere that said, "Speed doesn't kill. Differences in speed do". Ill only agree to have my car ticket me at 75 if we can also ticket those driving 60 in the fast lane. Many times, I do not want to drive fast and like a maniac, but the frustration from slow drivers driving below the speed limit make me and other fast drivers crazy, hence the fast bursts of speed.
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